so why stay in a job you dont like?, thats my point, you will be waiting a long time for the econmy to turn around, oh thats right you have no other qualifications and have interviewed everywhere else and been rejected.

Who care how crappy it is, we get that bonus next week so we can smile for that. I'll take their money and listen to MC lie/talk about how awesome we are doing at the next town hall.

I never said I wanted to stay in biotech. That's the problem with this place most of you here assume you know it all or have ego's to large to contain. You must be on the SLT....

Economy to turn around???, you are in Biotech, theres enough jobs available if you want leave......, if you are any good that is!!

God could the morale here be any lower! I can't wait for my bonus check and the economy to turn around so I can kiss this place goodbye.

"This thread is full of a bunch of idiots."

And you are their King

Yes we should all work together to get the ship in the right direction to be successful but the ones steering the ship are a bunch of wanks so maybe we should start by throwing them overboard.

This thread is full of a bunch of idiots.

of course you are on this site bitchin...so get back to work!!!!

Who cares what site is considered the "flagship" site. Why can't all of us just put our differences aside and work together to get this ship pointed in the right direction. It makes no sense to me why folks from both sites need to constantly bicker. We are all in the same boat so lets work together to become successful; it will only be better for all of us in the long run. I feel like all there is on this site is a bunch of disgruntled bitches who don't want to put in the time and effort. If you spent as much time concentrating on your job as you do bitching on this site the two sites might actually be successful. Get over the current situation and move forward.

that plant has been running for years under developed systems.

Flagship plant?!? Are you serious? The Hop is a total joke, what a waste of effort not to mention a black hole for cash. The people involved in the decision to acquire it and the ones who failed to make it work should be sacked. Oh an by the way, You're Welcome. That's for the thanks you should be giving us all in Portsmouth for the bonus you'll be getting. The Portsmouth site is not without its issues but it is in a class far beyond Hopkinton.

Of course Lonza wants the potential business in Hopkinton. But unless the plant can manage to release batches successfully, the business won't stay there. If the plant manages to be successful now, Portsmouth people get credit for it, not Hopkinton people. And a 'flagship plant'? You must not have worked anywhere else ever.

Delusional? Ha! You should realize that we are an investment in the future for the company in Hopkinton. We are going to be the money makers.Do you think those 20k's sitting idle are going to pay the bills? Doubtful. The layoffs here were to get rid of some of the bosses that were't cutting it. Down here the word is that Portsmouth got rid of the dead weight and slackers, good riddance. From what we've seen with those they are sending down they didn't do enough cuts. Don't worry though when we are the flagship plant we'll do some more house cleaning.

I don't know about that. The mgt can't be that down on Hopkinton, since we sold out our own here in Portsmouth to save some money.

If its so bad there and is such a burden why didin't we get rid of more heads down there and send people from here down there to fix everything? It doesn't add up.

I'm amazed we are still making it through these audits without any big observations.

Wow, that's a fantastic example of how delusional the people in Hopkinton are. Considering the management has already said that they wished they had shut it down instead of trying to save it, I don't think anyone will be begging the Hopkinton people for anything any time soon.

With all the new promo's the Hop will be turned around in no time and then the Port will be kissing our @$$es and begging us to keep their jobs

who can say, the place is a sorry mess, but they will probably continue to throw good money after bad. The people currently steering the ship are clueless.

So what's the over under on Hopkinton. Will they try and salvage it and keep it open or close it?

Broom Rider!! Hahaha, definately KB fits that. I have know idea how those people work for her, I'd hang myself

No argument there, while the SLT does need some house cleaning they are not all bad some of them are ok and just end up towing the line. Some are rotten to the core but hide it well. That broom rider who runs finance is definately an issue.

I have more of a problem with who these managers allow to stay. People that don't add anything but aggravation to my day, or the ones who clearly do nothing, I don't get it....

When the economy is better it will be interesting to see who stays, among the valued people of course, lord knows the slackers aren't going to leave their gravy train

I'm sure if someone who's in with the SLT and was given a big "chunk" of resposibility that they were also were compensated.

Only those not in with he golden circle were handed it with no bone. They were probably told the company is "hurting" finacially and we "all need to wear extra hats" to get through this.

The global people are still putting in a tough 4 hour work day so we should be out of the "hole" soon. What a farce this all is, hopefully the next "re-org" takes out some of the SLT, it's overdue.

Not all of the 'Head' positions are directors. Some of them are just potential promotions. The reorg had a bunch of people slotted into positions that should have been posted instead and had other people given big chunks of responsibility with no promotion or other remuneration.

Head of a department = Manager/Associate Director Level.

SLT do something sneaky, perish the thought. Come on and wake up..

So what's with all the new titles? "Head of"? was this another way for SLT to take care of some people? Were these promotions? Seems sneaky....

With all the money we dumped into this place and the people we lost because of it, it better not be sold. The place is a mess, no one would but it anyway.

Anything new about the rumors that Lonza wants to sell its cell culture business unit (formerly Cambrex)?

He's back in Portsmouth if you can call it being back, He strolls in a couple times a week but mostly still a layabout but he's in good with the SLT so there's no real expectation for him to perform.

Back where? Portsmouth or Hopkinton?

is JH back? thought he would be managing contracts after he failed...

Things are getting better in hopkinton, thanks to the hard working dedicated employees that have been there for years. The new SLT just has to back off and not screw it up! Hopkinton is NOT Portsmouth, all rules cannot apply the same. If the SLT can get it this time around, we will be fine.

JM seems to get it.

JH is irrelevant.

The downward spiral continues. Morale is in the gutter, but still better than being unemployed like those saps that got the boot last month.

And don't complain until you've worked for BT's wife!!!!

haha, yeah JH and OM are two prizes for sure.

What do you expect from this place, the lies come straight form the top, SK only want his leadership team to obey that's why they are in the jobs they are in.

That circle has their mangs and sups that will comply with all their wishes. Try working for BT for a while and then you can complain.

Yeah JH is a total joke but since he's in with the crowd he can do what he wants.

So many two faced people at this place, every group has their special individuals try dealing with OM. Its even at the top does anyone believe that MC is sincere about anything that he says? What a napoleon complex.

Haha, JH is a perfect example of failing at your job and getting to stay, promoted even! Let's not get started on a list of back stabbers at lonza, that could drag on for a while.

I need to go have a drink! only one more day before i have to return to that dump and deal with all the fakers an lazy butt kissers.

There's a reason that Lonza has an industry-wide reputation as a bunch of drunks. Dulling the pain of working there is most of it.

you might try kissing jh's butt..laff when he tells you his unh hand-up the horses ass story...booze helps dull the pain too. stay away from s.a. and m.h. as well...backstabbers both!!

Some of the recent posts here have been entertaining. You are all either naive, stupid, a combination of both or don't work at Lonza.

Do any of you really believe that the SLT cares about individuals here? Those of us not in the accepted circle are totally expendable and will be dumped on the whim of these spineless yes men.

They are in their positions because the Swiss want people who obey. They only care about the bottom line. So when the SLT gets an order to reduce OH they do it.

Do they do it right? No, these are not ethical individuals (no matter how much training they make us take on ethics) you can be a failure at your job but if you are on their good side you'll be kept, I'm sure everyone can come up with an example from their own groups.

Some advice if you wish to stay. Even if you are right, do not challenge someone in authority here, you will be blacklisted and it will come back to haunt you. It's easy to see who's in and who's not, learn to play ball (suck up whenever possible certain managers and directors with the bigger ego's love it)

If there are more cuts coming, believe they will use the opportunity to rid themselves of what they consider a nuisance.

If you're not already in good with the inner circle, keep your mouth shut, except to nod and say yes a lot. If you're not already looking, start looking, there are other (better) opportunities out there, the 9/80 schedule is great for conducting a job search!

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I feel totally confident that the oe teams will save us all,hahahaha

The ship may have sprung another leak. Heard there is possibly another cut coming. Hopefully some dead weight can go in this round. After that we should be ok the OE groups and the life at lonza teams will save us all. With the reductions is there still going to be an employee retention team?

Didn't you hear? Management had a meeting to tell us we are all safe now, surely they can be trusted, can't they?

We were making money this year (just not as much as they had hoped) and now that they sacrified some people the profit margin will be even more....what's a few more lives affected as long as our leaders are safe and secure in their jobs.

Just got home from my shift at Lonza, heard talks that more will be going. Maybe tomorrow... Thank God I have friday off...I hope I'm safe for now until I can get into something more stable. I want to know why Lonza lied to all of us? This place sure has changed. It sucks how management gives us all the same old crap, when they know the truth.
Lies and Layoffs...we are going down.

How many got laid off?

They should but it won't happen, they all look out for each other and they have their HR lap dogs who will go blindly along. They'll toss some poor slobs out the door and work themselves a nice increase.

I know that a few people are looking to get out when they lose enough quality poeple then it will be clear to all just how sad the leadership is.

Weren't we all back in this boat in 2003 when the leadership failed to take notice of where the market was heading.

Pretty much the same leadership that has us on this track right now, shouldn't some of them be losing their jobs at this point?

Lonza shares are falling and something has to be done. Layoffs and maybe liquidate any branches. Cell culture cell assays and cell transfection is might be alien to the Lonza management in Switzerland that is more familiar with classical chemistry. On the other hand why did they acquire it and have done that much marketing for Cambrex and Amaxa cell biology products?

Well they are bunch of cry babies and incompetent....but that doesn't take away from all the dead weight we have in Portsmouth or the terrible leadership...

Wow, what a bunch of whiney cry babies. You losers are all clearly Cambrex leftovers living in fear of the day Lonza figures out you're dead weight and cans your collective asses.