Lonza is cheap and it will get worse

[quote][quote]You guys are all doing a great job of showing the biotech community why they shouldn't hire you when you lose your jobs. Pathetic. Lonza is throwing a pile of money at you to stay and all you can do is make potty jokes at their expense. This Lonza employee is ashamed to be even remotely associated with you.[/quote]This Lonza employee want to know who you are. I really would like to know who you are because for the life of me I can not imagine who Lonza is throwing any money at. Have you not had the "market anchor" discussion with your boss? Have you not had your pathetic attempt at a performance appraisial yet? Have you not been told by your boss that your annual increase is going to be after 15 months, not 12 as it should be?Come on, have some balls and post your initials so we can all see who Lonza is throwing this pile of money at, because I can tell you it's Nobody I have spoken with in Hopkinton![/quote]Tone Loc

[quote][quote]You guys are all doing a great job of showing the biotech community why they shouldn't hire you when you lose your jobs. Pathetic. Lonza is throwing a pile of money at you to stay and all you can do is make potty jokes at their expense. This Lonza employee is ashamed to be even remotely associated with you.[/quote]At least you will have job in July you moron....[/quote]A lot of folks in Hopkinton don't want their jobs come July. The way things are going it looks like taking a baltimore package and having the summer off then starting a new job is the better looking of the two options. I envy the B'mores.Peace out!

[quote]You guys are all doing a great job of showing the biotech community why they shouldn't hire you when you lose your jobs. Pathetic. Lonza is throwing a pile of money at you to stay and all you can do is make potty jokes at their expense. This Lonza employee is ashamed to be even remotely associated with you.[/quote]This Lonza employee want to know who you are. I really would like to know who you are because for the life of me I can not imagine who Lonza is throwing any money at. Have you not had the "market anchor" discussion with your boss? Have you not had your pathetic attempt at a performance appraisial yet? Have you not been told by your boss that your annual increase is going to be after 15 months, not 12 as it should be?Come on, have some balls and post your initials so we can all see who Lonza is throwing this pile of money at, because I can tell you it's Nobody I have spoken with in Hopkinton!

[quote]You guys are all doing a great job of showing the biotech community why they shouldn't hire you when you lose your jobs. Pathetic. Lonza is throwing a pile of money at you to stay and all you can do is make potty jokes at their expense. This Lonza employee is ashamed to be even remotely associated with you.[/quote]If you would have read this thread more closely, you would see that it isn't just Bmore employees joking and whining...there are plenty of people from Hopkinton complaining also. Does that tell you anything???

[quote]You guys are all doing a great job of showing the biotech community why they shouldn't hire you when you lose your jobs. Pathetic. Lonza is throwing a pile of money at you to stay and all you can do is make potty jokes at their expense. This Lonza employee is ashamed to be even remotely associated with you.[/quote]At least you will have job in July you moron....

You guys are all doing a great job of showing the biotech community why they shouldn't hire you when you lose your jobs. Pathetic. Lonza is throwing a pile of money at you to stay and all you can do is make potty jokes at their expense. This Lonza employee is ashamed to be even remotely associated with you.

When all else fails....Fink like a car

[quote]Com'n folks do you really think all these negative posts are good for the business? Mngmnt.[/quote]The truth shall set you free, why hide the obvious? Lonza has made their own fate with their own decisions. Now sit back, grab some popcorn and enjoy the sketch comedy. If you made the decision to jump on the Lonza bus for the ride, I pray for your soul!

[quote]wtf is a moustache ride[/quote] use your imagination, pretend Eliot Spitzer had moustache...

wtf is a moustache ride

[quote][quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Your lucky you had your spare pants in the back pack. Firty-Free and a Fird.[/quote]Nothing beats two mental images of Critical Bill (God rest his soul!)1) The aftermath of dancing with he lightnin mixer to "Shaft"2) Mixing up the morning coffee ( Sanka + 1 cup of sugar +1 cup of creemer + enough coffee from the percolator to make it an emulsion)

[quote]Com'n folks do you really think all these negative posts are good for the business? Mngmnt.[/quote]Seems like plenty of negative posts coming out of Hopkinton when you don't even have occupancy permits yet for the areas you are supposed to be working in. What gripes will you have when you finally have to do some work?

Com'n folks do you really think all these negative posts are good for the business? Mngmnt.

Ooouch!

[quote]Come on everybody knows the Tony is a STUD![/quote]Not quite a STUD, falls alittle short, maybe STD dispenser!

[quote][quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Back then when there were no clients and things slowed downed you could always count on Barbara Z to raise morale with free mustache rides. I think you guys need that now.[/quote]Barb Z. has moved on (good for her) but for all those B-Mores heading up to Hopkinton Toneee will be giving mustache rides at the new place. Nice thing about TR is he doesn't discriminate, he gives rides to all comers you just have to pop a quarter in his slot!

BUT WHY OH WHY IS THERE A SCENT OF PEE COMING FROM THE TREE, PLEASE, PLEASE TELL US TONEEEE

[quote][quote][quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Your lucky you had your spare pants in the back pack. Firty-Free and a Fird.[/quote]Be nice...not good to poke fun of those no longer living.[/quote] In my opinion if the intent is to recall a fond memory of years gone by then it is not poking fun. I doubt it was intended to harm since only a handful of people would get it anyway.Out

[quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Back then when there were no clients and things slowed downed you could always count on Barbara Z to raise morale with free mustache rides. I think you guys need that now.

[quote][quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Your lucky you had your spare pants in the back pack. Firty-Free and a Fird.[/quote]Be nice...not good to poke fun of those no longer living.

[quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Your lucky you had your spare pants in the back pack. Firty-Free and a Fird.

[quote]That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....[/quote]Was this before or after Big Sue showed you her penis.

[quote]YES BUT TONY JUST PEED ON THE TREE AND NOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT STINKY[/quote]If AR just peed on the tree it must still be in the box because he only pees sitting down.

Why, Tony? Why did you pee on our Christmas tree?

YES BUT TONY JUST PEED ON THE TREE AND NOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT STINKY

[quote]It has however been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Xmas tree belongs to MD Bio and needs to stay! HANDS OFF THE TREE LONZA!Not so quick. In the BSCP days there was in fact a tree but that tree was officially referred to as a Holiday Tree (Hebrew Centric Management). Is this the same tree, was there a conversion?[/quote]SAME TREE, SAME CARDBOARD BOX, SAME LIGHTS, SAME ORNAMENTS! THE TREE MUST STAY!

Come on everybody knows the Tony is a STUD!

[quote]tony will save the day! he always does![/quote]I'm afraid Tony, TR, AR, aka Tone Loc, the Tranny, the Big Goomba, Da'Man, Darth AR and Dark Helmet is currently far too busy saving his own arse to worry about saving the day for you! Get a grip!

It has however been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Xmas tree belongs to MD Bio and needs to stay! HANDS OFF THE TREE LONZA![/quote]Not so quick. In the BSCP days there was in fact a tree but that tree was officially referred to as a Holiday Tree (Hebrew Centric Management). Is this the same tree, was there a conversion?

That's funny.We always said WHE stood for What the H*ll is Engineering.I remember mopping the floor (from the stand pipes) in Ferm 3 (when it existed) and steam would flash in the WHE 150L jacket.Sounde like you hit it with a hammer...ah....the memories.....

[quote][quote][quote]So whatis the deal, are they building a New state-of-the-art plant or are they moving up the crap equipment you speak of from Baltimore? I heard State of the Art, to me that means all pretty and new equipment, not Sanford and Son's junk!What's the real story? Darth AR care to comment?[/quote]something old, something new, something borrowed, something blueIn fact one mans "new state of the art" is another mans "hurry up rip that old clean steam generator out there and get it on a truck north".I would not worry functional equipement is really over rated in biotech.[/quote]It doesn't make sense. Let's rip out the old MD boilers, air compressors, WFI skid, etc. and send it north for the new building. Why not just front the cash and put in new boilers, etc in the new building? It was under my impression that MD Bio owned all that equipment along with the building. How can Lonza just start tearing out equipment when they don't really own the building or what came with it, aren't they are just leasing it? Oh this must have been all covered in the power point presentation. I believe MD Bio even owns the Xmas tree at this point, it was there before LonzaBuyers beware...they are going to screw you!!!!!! Suprise Suprise Surprise[/quote]I heard Lonza is leaving the WHE skids but it looks like some stuff that should be staying is going, or at least it's been prepared for a move. There aren't many employees that have been there long enough to even be able to tell what equipment should stay. Anything that was there when Bio Science was in operation isn't worth much and most of the equipment that was purchased by Cambrex has been abused or cannibalized so a buyer wouldn't have much to start with anyway. It has however been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Xmas tree belongs to MD Bio and needs to stay! HANDS OFF THE TREE LONZA!

[quote]Not all equipment is 15 years old. MD Bio doesn't own all the equipment, Cambrex owns some and if they are new and it costs less to move than buy new why not move it? Don't worry, Lonza will not "steal" equipment that it doesn't own, in fact it's likely that it will leave behind some equipment it does own, although the latter may be not be worth much.[/quote]Oh, but it seems they are...take it now and let the lawyers hash it out in the courts for years while the Baltimore building is mothballed...a total scorched earth approach to selling a building.

Not all equipment is 15 years old. MD Bio doesn't own all the equipment, Cambrex owns some and if they are new and it costs less to move than buy new why not move it? Don't worry, Lonza will not "steal" equipment that it doesn't own, in fact it's likely that it will leave behind some equipment it does own, although the latter may be not be worth much.

tony will save the day! he always does!

Hands off the x-mas tree! It's mine! If they won't let me bid on it, then I will have to take it by force.... //steaming

Get use to the idea that the buildout is not what you would expect from Lonza...see smoke amd mirrors comment!This is a build-out ala-Cheap! A true K-Mart "Blue Light Special" too bad the Swiss don't understand what a blue light special is, but that's not all they don't understand...wait and see and over time they will show how little they truly know. The crash is coming!

Now here is a person that appears to have some of the inside details. Why is Lonza not considering buying new utilities? If the Baltimore plant more than 15 years old then I assume some/most of this major equipment you speak of is near or beyond it's useful life? What the heak is going on in Hopkinton? Inquiring Job Candidates want to know!

[quote][quote]So whatis the deal, are they building a New state-of-the-art plant or are they moving up the crap equipment you speak of from Baltimore? I heard State of the Art, to me that means all pretty and new equipment, not Sanford and Son's junk!What's the real story? Darth AR care to comment?[/quote]something old, something new, something borrowed, something blueIn fact one mans "new state of the art" is another mans "hurry up rip that old clean steam generator out there and get it on a truck north".I would not worry functional equipement is really over rated in biotech.[/quote]It doesn't make sense. Let's rip out the old MD boilers, air compressors, WFI skid, etc. and send it north for the new building. Why not just front the cash and put in new boilers, etc in the new building? It was under my impression that MD Bio owned all that equipment along with the building. How can Lonza just start tearing out equipment when they don't really own the building or what came with it, aren't they are just leasing it? Oh this must have been all covered in the power point presentation. I believe MD Bio even owns the Xmas tree at this point, it was there before LonzaBuyers beware...they are going to screw you!!!!!! Suprise Suprise Surprise

[quote]So whatis the deal, are they building a New state-of-the-art plant or are they moving up the crap equipment you speak of from Baltimore? I heard State of the Art, to me that means all pretty and new equipment, not Sanford and Son's junk!What's the real story? Darth AR care to comment?[/quote]The only thing moving from MD to MA is the christmas tree!

[quote]So whatis the deal, are they building a New state-of-the-art plant or are they moving up the crap equipment you speak of from Baltimore? I heard State of the Art, to me that means all pretty and new equipment, not Sanford and Son's junk!What's the real story? Darth AR care to comment?[/quote]something old, something new, something borrowed, something blueIn fact one mans "new state of the art" is another mans "hurry up rip that old clean steam generator out there and get it on a truck north".I would not worry functional equipement is really over rated in biotech.

So whatis the deal, are they building a New state-of-the-art plant or are they moving up the crap equipment you speak of from Baltimore? I heard State of the Art, to me that means all pretty and new equipment, not Sanford and Son's junk!What's the real story? Darth AR care to comment?

The Baltimore site is like a bad Sanford and Son rerun. I can hear the music playing now as you just follow the red dots around the facility... ya big dummy!!!

All hail Dark Helmet!!!!

Just have a sip of the Kool Aid, U Too will join the dark side with Darth AR....as he builds the death star.

smoke and mirrors baby...smoke and mirrors

Cool, thanks for that perspective, I didn't think of it that way. Why do you say the stuff being moved up from Balt. is broken? I thought that they were building a New state-of-the-art plant? Or at least that is what they told me when I interviewed there. What's the real story.

[quote]Correction, they are pissing Swiss Francs down the drian, not euros, The Swiss Misses, like to Brits, were to proud to let their precious money get absorded into the Euro exchange. Anyone know what's happening in Hopkinton? These posts don't look too promising...Should good people consider working there?[/quote]Of course you should consider working there. It would take at least 18 months for them to sort through all the stuff baltimore is shipping and then by the time they figure out its a lot of broken ill kept equipment they will already be knee deep in client obligations they have to finish up before closing hopkinton. You should be safe for 3 years at least.

Correction, they are pissing Swiss Francs down the drian, not euros, The Swiss Misses, like to Brits, were to proud to let their precious money get absorded into the Euro exchange. Anyone know what's happening in Hopkinton? These posts don't look too promising...Should good people consider working there?

At this rate no contract biopharma job in the US is safe at Lonza. Once they finish with B-more they will have all eyes focuses on Hopkinton. At the rate they are going, with their expansion/construction, their heads will all be on the chopping block as the Swiss misses relize they are just pissing euros down the drain in the US. Good luck to all, but you bette rstart spit polishing your resumes. DON"T DRINK THE KOOL AID!!!