They used to be #1 in the US and the world in diagnostics, then their leaders left, the FDA moved in and total incompetence followed. They continue to lose good talent and have mediocre products. And again as they did two years ago, they cut their customer-facing departments, while continuing to be so top-heavy they keep falling over themselves.The most recent reduction of 200 has established Roche as probably the only $1billion organization that does not have a true customer service department, or leader. Instead of going from "good to great", they've gone from "great to desperate".
Roche Diagnostics downward spiral
Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 21/10/2008 - 03:53

I heard the current
I heard the current "management" in there all knowing also called him to come back and run the company....after they couldn't entice AT nor LG.....
pretty sure the answer is ...
pretty sure the answer is ... prison.
I can tell you for sure he is
I can tell you for sure he is not in Indy...
I loved the Bob and Tom
I loved the Bob and Tom Wilson show. Two great friends!
Tom Wilson
Tom Wilson
Who is TW?
Who is TW?
Why does this thread keep
Why does this thread keep dealing with things and people that are long gone. What I would like to know is what the outcome of the TW thing was. I heard he was back in Indy.
DD =
DD = loser
http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/31/news/companies/dina_wein_reis_fraud_tria...
the one and only
the one and only
Dumolium (sp?)
Dumolium (sp?)
Wondered when someone would
Wondered when someone would bring up DD. It is a miracle that the Swiss would trust anyone after that debacle
You weren't invited to the
You weren't invited to the parties then. There was a lot of partying going on at BMC/RDC in the "old" days. There was a lot of "hooking up" before we called it hooking up. There are some married couples still working there from the "hook-ups" and these people were not necessarily single when they were having their flings etc. And yes, you humble naive sould who spent 30 years working for the company, it was going on that long ago too. The parties were legendary, the alcohol flowed like water and Orlando. Well, who could forget those meetings in Orlando? The newer management, the MTs and ATs you speak of and DDs in Diabetes Care, they took this company on the downward spiral--but it has been happening for many years.
I will say that BMC, (and now
I will say that BMC, (and now Roche), did have their share of shallow men that did those things. MT was one of them, no doubt. There were a couple of VP of Sales that were unethical too, (but I'm going back 10 years on that).
miele bags
House of Cards = House that
House of Cards = House that Jack built.....
no other great news?
no other great news?
Uh, Hubert did indeed enjoy
Uh, Hubert did indeed enjoy his birthday at those bars in Orlando.
I would be stunned if AT
I would be stunned if AT acted in an unethical manner. MT on the other hand, would only behave in an unethical manner because that is the ONLY way he knows how to act.
I've been with BMC/Roche for
I've been with BMC/Roche for 30+ years. I knew Hubert and AT. (ps...you spelled Hubert's name wrong). There is no way that AT or Hubert ever cut loose and acted unethical during their stays at BMC/Roche. Simply wasn't in their blood. Never. They never went to "those" bars either.
I will say that BMC, (and now Roche), did have their share of shallow men that did those things. MT was one of them, no doubt. There were a couple of VP of Sales that were unethical too, (but I'm going back 10 years on that).
Today, Roche upper management is very good. My only complaint is that it's always changing at the top. Average life-span of a VP, Senior VP, President, CEO, is less than a Huey gunner in Vietnam...
I fondly remember the orgies
I fondly remember the orgies at the national meetings, particularly Orlando. Going way back even remember the limo with Reahkamper visiting all the boobie bars.
They were never even close to
They were never even close to #1 in the US.
Things in Indianapolis must
Things in Indianapolis must be much better if this is all there is to discuss
There at the end heard MT was
There at the end heard MT was swinging both ways. Wonder how it's hanging now.
uh, figment? or perhaps your
uh, figment? or perhaps your imagination is that wild and uncontrolled that this is just a fragment... in which case, the original comment stands...
"never AT... that poster is
"never AT... that poster is just mad. probably is either MT or one of his europunks..."
Sure....could only be them....keep blaming them for all the bad news...if it makes you feel better...
Well the awkward bumping into AT and his companion in restaurants and hotel lobbies while in Indy from the field were all a fragment of my imagination....
no, they just keep screwing
no, they just keep screwing themselves.
there were a lot of sales
there were a lot of sales affairs... mostly typical stuff although always disappointing to know about it. never AT... that poster is just mad. probably is either MT or one of his europunks...
agree..certainly not anyone
agree..certainly not anyone at work....no hint of scandal ever...just a great leader and a good person...
Affairs at Roche? Say it
Affairs at Roche? Say it isn't true.
SeptiFast, a PCR-based test
SeptiFast, a PCR-based test for sepsis what's the price?
i don't buy it... share the
i don't buy it... share the proof...
AT.....
AT.....
AT or MT???
AT or MT???
The 30 of july in Australia
The 30 of july in Australia they sent a letter. Look at
The purpose of this communication is to inform you that we have taken the decision to voluntariliy discontinue selling the Elecsys D3 assay …...Since the launch of the asay some weeks ago, we have received growing customer feedback indicating that the assay is not performing as expected…….
PC Managing Director
It was so bad !!!!
Not reporting to local CFO,
Not reporting to local CFO, but to divisional CFO
Is KK out?
Is KK out?
Boy, with TA's promotion they
Boy, with TA's promotion they have sure downgraded the old KK position, from President reporting to Basel to SVP reporting to local CFO WB, who we know is "on the back burner".
I agree, TA will do a great
I agree, TA will do a great job! He is ethical and experienced. He is definitely not the reason for timelines being missed with FDA submissions. He does a good job keeping those teams in line.
TA has been named SVP of RDO
TA has been named SVP of RDO operations. Will report to the CFO.
What role was TA named to VP
What role was TA named to VP of what for Dx? Who does he report to?
That might be so but at least
That might be so but at least he doesn't report to KK
You got to be kidding
You got to be kidding me....TA is the reason so many timelines are missed with submission to FDA etc.
He doesn't have a clue...nice guy but a totally useless lackey bend to every Swiss whim....this is NOT a good thing for RDO / RDC....
This is a good thing.
This is a good thing. Finally someone ethical with a commercial and operations background who understands the downstream effects of lapses in quality and a lack of urgency to get things done. This is a well deserved promotion.
New announcement from Roche.
New announcement from Roche. Tom Adkins is the new VP for Diagnostics. Is this a good thing or not?
Of course WB remains
Of course WB remains untouched....he is protected in the warm bowels of JP
Lots of changes in
Lots of changes in Finance....but WB untouched....as usual...that guy is amazing
That is not the point. Canned
That is not the point. Canned leadership, corp. structures and business models are not the answer either; those are all at the end of their "life-cycle" too. And it isn't just true with Roche. It is everywhere.
So let's vote which is the
So let's vote which is the worst place to work for?
Could be worse. Could work
Could be worse. Could work for Beckman
KK's world just got smaller.
KK's world just got smaller. What is next step after total emasculation? Guess he won't be jacking around with Jack anymore...
It all comes from Basel.
It all comes from Basel.
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