By "overengineered crap" you must mean Compactplus and Multiclix.
Waiting for a combination of the two. Will be Lifescan's 98% 'user error' revisited.

"meters and strips is not the business for anyone to be in right now."
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This has never stopped SS before. Why should it now.

Their consumer customer database is large-too large and out of control & they have nobody that knows how to utilize or even manage it effectively. They do not even realize that American consumers do not like and cannot use the overengineered crap from Germany. The cash cow is milked out. Divestment? Buyers anyone?

with the looming cuts in medicare reimbursement for strips etc... (>50%) they would be crazy to fund any new products. Their new slogan is "manage the damage" meters and strips is not the business for anyone to be in right now.

So is Roche NA Diabetes Care ever going to launch any new product or just continue to play damage control?

"As fascinating as this is,how about discussing something quasi current instead of people that are in the past.
Like....Have they hired the new AD's? Have the RBM's interviewed for their jobs. New hires/fires etc.
By talking about these geezers from the past you identify yourself as one."

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It seems that new hires for Sales positions will have no idea that Ortho Clinical Diagnostics Vitros was originally Kodak Ektachem and that the ACS180 was a Ciba-Corning successful Immuno analyzer. In other words, people over 40 need not to apply.

As fascinating as this is,how about discussing something quasi current instead of people that are in the past.
Like....Have they hired the new AD's? Have the RBM's interviewed for their jobs. New hires/fires etc.
By talking about these geezers from the past you identify yourself as one.

Doesn't really matter what you think of MT, because SS will screw you all.

Doesn"t really matter what you think of MT, he will do great. He is a "winner" in the lottery of life; smart, wealthy, handsome, self confident right education, right contacts etc. Maybe he went too far too fast, but he will regroup and find a good opportunity. Life really isn't fair...

KD of response scares everyone away,look how long " Michael McN" lasted after leaving Agilent...what three whole months? SHe'sa scary one

Please let me know when and where MT lands. If the company is public, it is a PERFECT opportunity to short the stock! Easy money is the way that I see it! BTW, he is not on the board of Response Genetics. He tried to get on the board with a group of activist investors and the management team convinced the shareholders that MT was not qualified to sit on the board! Check out the press releases and the proxy letter from the CEO. Maybe his "style" of leadership is better understood by the larger community.

1) MT doesn't need a job....2) his agreement with Roche required he sit out for a while. He'll get a jon when he decides he really wants one

This is correct, but better a board of directors than an "individual contributor" loser.

so he is still unemployed. thanks

He's also on board for Response Genetics. Must be nice.

Hey dudes...get a life.

Michael J. Tillman is in the strategic advisory board position with NanoRepro AG. Its like being a consultant. Nothing more, nothing less. Move on.

Michael J Tillmann is now at NanoRepro AG in Marburg, Germany.

Wow, what a bunch of pathetic people. Your life must be so miserable. You couldn't get a job at walmart if you left Roche so you opt to stay, collect that weekly check you so deserve and have bitch sessions on a rumor mill site. Wahoo, ain't life great!

MT is gone, why worry, why discuss the issue any longer, he is gone!!!!! You'll never work for the company his does due to your lack of knowledge. Look at yourselves, you post on boards. Do you really think you have it in you to be with another fortune 500 company. Stay in your cubicles and type on rumor mill sites since that is what's really important to you.

Try and have a happy Holiday but since you are scrooge at Roche you are most likely scrooges too in real life. Its all about me, who care about anyone else but poor little me.
I'll end again with.........what a bunch of pathetic people!!!!!

PS...i'm not at Roche so don't be so quick to judge, oh, well written like an HR person. My better half works with Roche and he is so happy to be there. I'm with another competitor.
MT is still retired as of 12/1/2010.

Jealous much?
If you hate it so much, leave.
There are hundreds waiting in the wings to take your place.
If you are doing what you are supposed to, Chad will be a good boss.
If not don't blame him because you are a loser.

Spoken like a true disciple. Now go wash his feet or whatever other body part interests you.

Nice high brow comments and observations.
Is calling him a doody head next?
Grow up.

Business in the toilet?

What is FOTB? Free on board tea bagging?

A new FOBT test coming out to compete with Beckman?

wow-that's descriptive... at least you will be able to smell him coming

I think CB is the tea baggee as opposed to a tea bagger and I could see him receiving a Cleveland Steamer.

If you really want to understand CB's motives, research the Cleveland Steamers on the EbioSciences thread. The answers are there....

How is CB f-ing up? When will he leave? Any other interesting news?

At least MT was right when he told LS not to hire CB as VP of sales in RAS. She did anyway and it cost her big. The one good thing is that clown is f*ing up CD and is out of here!

Good question! Where did MT land? I am in an employment serach and want to make sure that I don't knock on the door of this idiot. What a arrogant baffoon! I pray no one hires him so that he knows what it's like for struggling families who were victums of his reign of terror at RDC Dx.

this is boring... is MT still unemployed?

It did hit the mark and the additional duties that Roche has you do are no more than any other company in the industry.
Is there any job still in existence that you are asked to do less this year than you did the previous year?
Maybe oil spills or nuclear meltdowns.....
You obviously have not interviewed recently or aren't very in touch with how many candidates the employers have to choose from.

The reality is that folks were offered X to do Y and through the years, the X side of the equations hasn't increased but on the Y side, Z, A, B, and C have been added.

Nice attempt at an analogy but it really didn't hit the mark.

You mean they can't?
Many people would be thrilled to work here and do whatever they ask.
Maybe it is time for you to go the way of the old Amershamers.
No one is forcing you to stay here.
It is a very straight forward agreement.
I pay you X and ask you to do Y.
If you don't like Y, don't take X and hit the road you whiner!

"They think that they can take monkeys, give them a sales system and they will all be "rock-stars". Obviously they felt that none of the RBM's were capable of career advancement hence the group of new AD's. I hear that there isn't a talented, experienced, capable one in the bunch. "

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Specially young and cute monkeys. That is the sales model of the Pharma industry. Hire smart, attractive, younger people, train them for 2-3 months and spread them all over the territory. Problem is the average Lab Manager is over 45 with 20 yrs of experience and the last thing they want is a kid telling them how to run their place. Lack of industry (business and technical)experience of the Sales Reps and constant turnover are two of the main complaints by Laboratories all over the country. Hope my new Roche Sales Executive can at least last two years.

I guess that's what's in the christmas envelope this year--bend over and take it like an american...

That is the swiss way: no kiss first and no lubrication before. Now bend over!

Any other FSRs feel like they are getting hosed with the realignment of the Service regions to match Sales? I think that if Sales is that fucked up then why should Service be the ones doing the changing? Of course, the word from the brass is now "We made our decision without asking you. Shut up." Great. Now I get a manager who won't even be living in the Region and according to the latest PPC numbers is in a tie for last place.

The new leadership and that's a joke, has plans to get rid of all, all the existing management. First all the AD's, next are the RBM's. They think that they can take monkeys, give them a sales system and they will all be "rock-stars". Obviously they felt that none of the RBM's were capable of career advancement hence the group of new AD's. I hear that there isn't a talented, experienced, capable one in the bunch. Too bad the competition is in such disarray and won't be able to take advantage.
Guys and gals let me assure you that there is life after roche.

"You guys are too deep and missing "the forest".
Layoffs and job loses are bummers no matter when.
Tday and Christmas make it tough.
Nobody wants to believe that we live paycheck to paycheck.
Ask the fired AD's how big that house payment looks now.
Condolences to all that have to deal with this..."

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Each individual must provide his own protection. I am in Sales, but I still maintain my active Med Tech license and do networking in "related industries" such as Healthcare Information Systems, Surgical Devices, Bio-pharma. I belong to professional groups and stay in contact with my college alumni society. Companies don't care about employees, thus, protect yourself.

"Does anyone have actual knowledge that SS's wife is in fact related to the family and that this in any way played into the decision to name him CEO. Roche has for many years had professional managers who are not part of the family-don't see why that would change now. This seems like an urban myth"

Why does it matter? Roche is a big company with a lot to lose with whomever is in charge. If the board decides he is not doing his job he will be fired. Same would happen if he was Jesus Christ!

Does anyone have actual knowledge that SS's wife is in fact related to the family and that this in any way played into the decision to name him CEO. Roche has for many years had professional managers who are not part of the family-don't see why that would change now. This seems like an urban myth-

You guys are too deep and missing "the forest".
Layoffs and job loses are bummers no matter when.
Tday and Christmas make it tough.
Nobody wants to believe that we live paycheck to paycheck.
Ask the fired AD's how big that house payment looks now.
Condolences to all that have to deal with this...

"SS and JP have been transparent about this process all year long. Knew it was coming."

Is it fair to say that SS has been transparent by saying he screwed up the crown jewel of U.S. biotech so badly that he now has to inflict painful RIFs because he is incompetent? Has SS been transparent by indicating that his only qualification to be in the position he is in is his wife's family lineage and not his business acumen, maturity or knowledge?

SS is the genius that spent billions on buying Genentech, just in time for the US government & health care providers to limit coverage on the expensive new oncology drugs that Roche markets. This allows SS to declare "Vee are in a position of strength und vee have a strong portfolio" (and SS has zero accountability to shareholders).

the issue is overall bad management within Roche at the top(checked the stock performance)?, and the continuing under performance of Indy relative to the rest of Roche.

It wasn't too long ago that a career could be made at RDC Indy, since then it is fear and trying to hold on to your job.

Lots of idle, uninformed speculation tainted by sour grapes about Roche and Indy here. Would not take any of it too seriously. SS and JP have been transparent about this process all year long. Knew it was coming.

"It is interesting to watch this post and see the continued bashing of Roche Indy. If the rumors here were correct even 5% of the time, Roch Indy should be a ghost town by now, and yet I drove by there yesterday and the parking lot was still full. Roche announces 6300 jobs being cut or moved, and not a mention of Indy. It is now quite obvious that all of this Indy bashing is just that, bashing by people who obviously have zero inside knowledge and are only interested in spreading false rumors"

A. This is called the rumor mill. Right?
B. Check the press release again...DX will be impacted.
C. Parking lot is full...that's a strong argument for DX doing great with that line of investigation. Glad your "drive by" is proof that the Indy campus is thriving and these rumors are so off-base.
D. My post stated small numbers picked off; not a full shuttering.

In my opinion, you sound like management at Roche. That's fine, but look around at Pharma results to understand that their drop will impact you substantially and realize that the decline in specific meds and the FDA approval process will trickle down to you. Consider this; if Roche Group is doing so well, and you are so secure in your job (with a full parking lot), why are thousands of employees losing their jobs? They probably thought the same thing as you.

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