Martin had some class. After his departure the whole culture declined and then came the clowns.

Good for her, although I can't say the same for her new employer (they should have looked for someone with more ecxperience in the diagnostic sector they are targetting, which certainly isn't commodity diagnostics.

TO is moving from RD US CEO to a VP job in a company (Lilly) that has been in decline mode for nearly 10 years. I suspect this is a job TO can grow into, CEO of RDC was not one she could handle.

I would like to know how TO, snagged the plum job as Lilly's Diagnostics VP. What does sho know about companion diagnostics?

MT and JS were the very reason for the trouble at Roche today. They were unethical idiots. Thankfully JS it too old to work, and MT will hopefully remain unemployed for the rest of his life.

Profit sharing disappeared after those two.

At least Denny Ware and Martin Madeous knew how to turn a profit.

...at least with MT and JS we had leaders that knew our business!

DoD and JP havent a clue!

Roll up for the magical mystery tour.....Roll up.....

New commitment surey would be 10 questions such as
do you think management are:
a) brilliant
b) excellent
c) pretty good
d) right, its all my fault for not being good enough.

KK is on the "back burner" and no longer in a position of power at RD Indy.

You prefer having MT back? And JS?

Agreed-Good Guy
Who replaced him?

I worked with Mike when I was employed at Roche, and he was a good person and seemed to have a very good business sense. He also made some good "home-brew".

....and another Ventana wanna be joins the leadership team...

Who bought who here?

Mike Nigro, VP of Corporate Accounts...actually seemed pretty effective

...and another one bites the dust....☠.....

No, it is not called the management team. It is the Leadership Team

Kiss of death working with those guys....

The mgmt team could not possibly be at fault, has to be those malcontents, the "approx 10 different folks keep this tread going because thats's what they do, whine, non-productive folks." So they are to blame for everything?

Hahahah! Now that's funny! Want to hear another? Good luck with those maltose-free diabetes strips

RE: "This Roche forum is for people who just need to complain. Face it, you'll never be happy so get over it and move on and stop blaming your mgt team and everyone around you. Because you post it, it simply has to be true."

People who've been there long enough to know the difference and see the changes are discouraged. When business and the economy are good, there is less uncertainty and fear.

For lack of any other meaningful outlet, it gets on here.

Anybody have a take on DoD's grand pronouncements What are the emperor's new clothes this time? terror committees?

Begs the question- it's the same everywhere not just Roche.

This Roche forum is for people who just need to complain. Face it, you'll never be happy so get over it and move on and stop blaming your mgt team and everyone around you. Because you post it, it simply has to be true.

Everyone here just keeps the others writers happy by stating poor and inaccurate facts about Roche. Instant gratification when you open up the rumor mill and see another posting on How Roche can't do this, Roche can't do that. OMG, what a sad bunch of employees you are.

Life must be unbearable, poor you, i got a bad reviews, i'm not told what i'm doing wrong at work, i just get poor ratings, Roche continually lays off, continually re-orgs, bla-bla-bla. What fortune 100 company does NOT do this. Its just the way it is. get over it or better yet. Try and change it, do something about it, climb that corporate ladder, but no, why would you, life is miserable at Roche and you're going to change this by sounding off on a rumor mill board, PATHETIC!

.....EXACTLY

I'm sorry, but most of the "Roche way" is the WRONG WAY! Been going the wrong way for a few years now.

Get over it. There's the right way, the wrong way and then there is the Roche way.

NEW YORK (GenomeWeb News) – Roche and IBM today announced they will be co-developing a nanopore-based technology that will directly read and sequence human DNA.

Good news, Roche in for the long haul on this one.

No reorg. Folks just thought that because DoD was in town for a leadership meeting. Wrong again.

I thought there was suppossed to be some re-org. news by Wednesday? anybody have an update?

DOD forgot to mention one thing: "Remember to ask yourself, is this good for the company?"

If you are vulnerable (to lay-offs, firing, etc.) it is because your are an under peformer, you have no credentials to get a good job anywhere else, you fear you won't be able to pay your bills, or you don't get along with management. In all cases these are areas where you should look in the mirror (that's right, at yourself).

How long (hours/days?) did it take for anyone to notice KK was missing or had he already been replaced with a talking cone?
Next time he should take JP to the connector tunnel

KK managed to lock himself in the tunnel connector and had to relie on Helen to let himself out.

reorg announcement???

Key rules for working at Roche Indy:
* Work your but-off, there are plenty of folks inside and outside willing to take your place- and they will...
* things will get worse, before they get better. The death spiral is accelerating. If you value your career and family security begin networking and find another job.
* Best and brightest leave the company first. They do not want to be part of failure.
* Improve your mobility, don't buy the big house, car, or Harvard education for "Jimmy" until you have a stronger longer term, growth opportunity.
* Play the games, be the chameleon, the political junkie until youu find your way out of the place. This will lessen your chaces of being fired in the short term, and until you can give them notice.
* Most of all Keep Your Head Together. Acknowledge that you will be leaving and save your energy for getting out of the accelerating downward spiral.
* If you get caught with your "pants down" don't blame Roche Diagnostics Indy, you only have yourself to blame.

It's all good, don't worry- be happy. We have KK as czar for Quality. What more do ya need? As someone else already commented,
"Roche owes you nothing." With that line of reasoning, just do your job and collect your paycheck as long as you have one. Nevermind the consequences. Supposed to higher morale and ethical standard here or is that just window-dressing? Guess you just change jobs the way some change their socks- no commitment, no loyalty. Parts don't effect the whole. Oh, and try to make it a better place to work too. More talking cone stuff: JP will hold court and address the lowly workers Wednesday

23 years,age 48, laid off. Roche does target the more experienced workers to lay off,however, keep in mind that HR would say there is no age discrimination here!!! Whatever!
That said, I was able to land in a position where my salary was boosted by almost 15% and I am working with a great new company. While leaving Roche is hard, take all the positive things you have learned and invest your self in a new place.

Roche "separated" me after 31 years by using 100% pure lies endorsed by Roche Human Resources. Truth, as documented by my peers, was completely ignored. This is not a whine, I worked my ass off there. Roche is nothing but a company living in lies from POS to forecasting to profit sharing. Those who remain testify to those facts.

Re: "The numbers far exceed those who are proud to work there versus the whiners, naggers, all day internet surfers, unable to accept constructive criticism, bla-bla-bla. The few who post here, approx 10 different folks keep this tread going because thats's what they do, whine, non-productive folks."

Print your post out and keep it in your wallet. Wait till you hit 45 and get your first shitty review. Might be for fuzzy stuff you cant document or for bald lies but get used to that cuz thats all you get from there out. Start saving your vacation time cuz within a year or so you'll get to go home early one day and explain to your wife that you just got laid off and you don't know how your going to pay for the house and your kids college tuition. Your not going to sleep much that night so wait til about 2AM before you pull that paper out of your wallet and read how you should just accept it. The one thing you couldnt plan around was time.

"Once again, if you are unhappy please feel free to leave. Don't let the door hit you in the butt."

spoken like a true doorknob

"The leadership team is improving ...."

Who the hell are you kidding? You have a leader that has absolutely no idea and lets finance and HR run the company.....
New sales VP with no idea.....

Its getting better?

Wake up!

The numbers far exceed those who are proud to work there versus the whiners, naggers, all day internet surfers, unable to accept constructive criticism, bla-bla-bla. The few who post here, approx 10 different folks keep this tread going because thats's what they do, whine, non-productive folks. Just imagine if they put the effort forward to make Roche a better place. Concentrate your efforts in their immediate work group versus keeping the thread going daily basis. Roche is how many thousand strong in the Indianapolis area versus these dozen people. Wow, a dozen posters, plus a few dozen more in Indy who area unhappy.

Thats not a significant amount of people. You'll always have these types of employees, every company does.
Be thankful for what you have and try to make Roche a better place to be. Ask yourself if you've personally contributed daily to Roche or have you simply given up. It's a job, you're supposed to contribute daily. Roche owes you nothing. You went to them for the job. They did not come looking for you. If you want union environment go to a car assembly plant because that is what you sound like. Blue collar union person who constantly whines.

Roche rocks and most departments are doing just fine in this day and age with the economy, etc. Yes, there are areas within the Indy campus to improve but what company is perfect. There isn't one. Roche will get there. The leadership team is improving but it takes time to find the right candidates for this type of product.

Once again, if you are unhappy please feel free to leave. Don't let the door hit you in the butt.

.... " Indy is not the Roche center of the world for the US ..."

1. This thread centers on Indy.

2. Criticism and complaining are two separate things.

3. Got something about another area, sod-off and start another
thread.

4. If you do not have something to whine about yet, just wait.
Your time will come too, it always does.

There are some in Indy who are very proud to work for Roche too.

In my opinion Roche US is getting fed up with this thread that relates to the problems only at Roche Indy. Indy is not the Roche center of the world for the US (Branchburg, Nutley, Puerto Rico, Genentech, Ventana, etc., etc.,)

Granted, lot of big mistakes have been made in Indy, and there are still a lot of the old cronies in high places, and there is still a lot of work remaining. But all of this complaining, when viewed by the non-Indy Roche people make the folks in Indy look really bad to the rest of the corporation. Hence the attacks that "type cast" Indianapolis workers as lazy complainers.

Keep this in mind when you post about Roche Indy, there are indeed Roche people at other locations who are proud to work for Roche.

Roche stays the way it does because of you whiners, slackers, typically of what is found in the Indianapolis market place.

Pack your bags, you are free to go but you still stay and collect that weekly check,post your report on this site, OMG, you part timers. You're pathetic.

There is no worse place for someone to work than Roche. Period.

---grab your bike and get ready for the "change everything and something will happen"

Can hardly wait.................

OK, drum roll please....

reorg announcement will be next week

Monday: Mannheim
Tuesday: Rotkreuz
Wednesday: Indianapolis

Operations will have "minor tweaks"
Quality will have some "major tweaks"
Others: ????

stay tuned....

To "former long term employee" (and others):

IMHO, the "problem" at Roche Indy and Roche overall is lack of inspiration and motivation to make Roche what it should be.

In Indianapolis, the CEO seat has been a veritable revolving door. There are many reasons that have been discussed here and elsewhere, but the end result is that employees are lacking good direction. Make more money! Is that really an appropriate rallying cry for the employees of a healthcare company?

Globally, there has also been some uninspiring leadership. Remember HvP? Remember JS? The company has lost some of it's "way". Dr. Humer and to some extent SS seem to make the case that the company really does care about the patient. At the next level down, the message starts to get replaced by profitability. One more level down and the message is profitability with very little mention of care about the patient.

So, if globally and locally the leadership displays appear uninterested about care for the patient, why should they care about the employees?

My point is: there is no "rallying cry"; there is no real motivation that the employees can embrace and support; there is no tangible goal that employees can support and make a difference.

You are right that Roche has the resources to make it happen, but without a motivated workforce, it will be dificult.

In response to : "In response to the last post "it is leadership stupid". You can have all the resources, product and talent in the world, but if you make on-going, terrible, leadership choices even the most worthy ship will sink."

Highly distressing to those who work at and actually care about the place.

In response to the last post "it is leadership stupid". You can have all the resources, product and talent in the world, but if you make on-going, terrible, leadership choices even the most worthy ship will sink.