LSG= Lost So many Games LOL

I agree 100%!

LSG = incompetence, top to bottom.

Worst acronym ever...

LSG = incompetence, top to bottom.

Thermo-fisher seems intent to buy LSG to strength their PCR and other product lines. Any inside story?

Bio-Rad LSG marketing is pathetic. They think they have a strategy but really don't. They just copy every one else's work and pretend it's a better product.

I am not opposed to spending time in the field I am opposed to wasting MORE time in the field. ROI? We have over 200 reps in the US collaborating with customers daily. Tap into that knowledge base.
If you expect the sales force to give you that information, than what would be your job to do? Color coordinate product literature?
Why does BR even bother having a marketing group?

I am not opposed to spending time in the field I am opposed to wasting MORE time in the field. ROI? We have over 200 reps in the US collaborating with customers daily. Tap into that knowledge base.
It is NOT the job of the sales force to do your market research. Their primary function is to sell what is available. They are a good secondary source. Marketing should be in front of customers as much as possible.
If you've got a better idea why don't you present it to management instead of complaining on this forum during work hours.

“Wow, what a terrible idea. I can't imagine being forced to leave my office to actually go out and talk to people. Ridiculous.”
“Its a wonder why Biorad can't make an innovative product. The people who work there don't want to leave the building. While their management may not be great, it seems like lunacy from top to bottom. I am no fan of Biorad, but that ain't so crazy an idea.”
“Hmmm, you don't want to know what your customers want? LSG management is dumb but you are even dumber.”

I am not opposed to spending time in the field I am opposed to wasting MORE time in the field. ROI? We have over 200 reps in the US collaborating with customers daily. Tap into that knowledge base.

I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing.

Hmmm, you don't want to know what your customers want? LSG management is dumb but you are even dumber.

I forgot to mention I am the janitor.

I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing.

Hmmm, you don't want to know what your customers want? LSG management is dumb but you are even dumber.

"I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work"

Its a wonder why Biorad can't make an innovative product. The people who work there don't want to leave the building. While their management may not be great, it seems like lunacy from top to bottom. I am no fan of Biorad, but that ain't so crazy an idea.

"I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing."

Wow, what a terrible idea. I can't imagine being forced to leave my office to actually go out and talk to people. Ridiculous.

I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing.

Time to rate managers again. Let's have some feedback on BC, PC, AT, SH, BK, TT, etc.
All provide no value and have no lack of strategic direction, except to copy other companies' products. They couldn't get jobs at other companies if they tried.
BC's whole customer focus is a losing proposition until you hire new people with that philosophy in manufacturing and other operational groups. Marketing and sales can't be the only customer focused groups.

Time to rate managers again. Let's have some feedback on BC, PC, AT, SH, BK, TT, etc.

It is the best job I have ever had. On a busy week, I work maybe 8 hrs and still make plan every quarter.

I'm thankful I don't work at this dysfunctional company any longer. LSG will continue to spiral into irrelevance in the life science research community.

BC will continue to collect his >$900k per year, continue to hire and promote mediocre managers, stab loyal employees in the back, and anything else he needs to do to cover his backside.

I'm so lucky I don't work for Bio-Rad any more. If you have a business degree and you are good at politics, you can easily be a CEO in Bio-Rad!!

A manager should broaden our outlook, push us beyond our comfort zones, help us be successful, exemplify the corporate values, and focus us on learning, serving, persevering, leading, and advancing. My manager does none of this, does yours?

They are all stick and no carrot, where everyone should be the same corporate reflection. Eventually, the rah-rah sis boom bah culture produces one question: "Why?"

Paying for surveys is a Bio-Sad strategy. It is a mediocre place to work at best. Most of my managers have been ineffective, knowledgeless, arrogant, kool-aide drinking cheerleaders. They are glorified C players that have been promoted in order to perpetuate mediocrity.

NS's statement "We are living in the 'golden age of biology' and Bio-Rad is in a great position to make meaningful contributions to the advancement of science and healthcare." is funny. Does he or his management team understand biology/ science at all?

It was copied/pasted from a press release from 15 years ago?

NS's statement "We are living in the 'golden age of biology' and Bio-Rad is in a great position to make meaningful contributions to the advancement of science and healthcare."
is funny.

Does he or his management team understand biology/ science at all?

This all comes to the background of the top management. Check it out and you would know.

All these payola 'surveys' are meaningless. Any company can be on top of a 'survey' at any time.

working so many years for Bio-rad, made me bitter for Biotech industry-therefore I don't understand why Bio-rad is one of the best places to work for...This is just a ridiculous survey

Bio-Rad is not a great place to work. I thought this ranking was pretty laughable.

Here is the bad:
This is one of the cheapest companies I have ever seen. Examples the $50 Amex gift card at Christmas -funds to cover it come from employees being required to use corp Amex card for expenses. Stock options and bonuses only go to top management.
There are some pretty ineffective managers there. PC, BC, SK, KB, LC, JW, RK, KB, EL, etc.
Real lack of innovation -very conservative approach to technology. Do not expect to be on the cutting edge of science there.
Politics -some of the worst I have seen. People building and protecting their own little kingdoms. Makes for a lot of unproductive effort.

The good:
They offer some pretty decent training, so it is a good place to learn

So some third rate biz rag ran a shoddy survey. Doesn't change their poorly run HR department. Bio-Rad is still a cheap company to work for. NS is dreaming in that press release. Actually, he's probably just dreaming of retiring. They pay poorly and it's full of people either hoping to retire soon, too lazy to go someplace better, low-achievers, and a few optimists hoping that things will improve.

Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. (NYSE: BIO) and (NYSE: BIO.B), has been named one of the 'Best Places to Work' in the San Francisco Bay Area for 2010 by the San Francisco Business Times.

said Norman Schwartz, Bio-Rad President and Chief Executive Officer. "We are living in the 'golden age of biology' and Bio-Rad is in a great position to make meaningful contributions to the advancement of science and healthcare."

How credible does this ranking mean?

how was the Q1 for LSG? anybody knows, where did the DH go?

"JH is on a special project."

When a manager at Bio-Rad is moved from his former position to work on a "special project," it is NOT a promotion.

I bet this week's Q1 earnings report will be dismal for LSG. Then this will be followed by an "emergency" sr. management meeting where they'll all scramble to Hercules to show how everything will be OK later in the year. It's the same thing every year.
You'd think they'd learn after years of repeating this same BS.

Here's what needs to change:
-Wrest control from the international subsidiaries. Yes, it may be tax beneficial they way they're set up now. But each sub manager has his own little kingdom that makes it difficult to enact global changes that results in loss of potential sales, higher overhead, etc.
-Reduce the sales force in Europe. This has got to be the most bloated group in the world. Most likely because of Euro-socialist labor laws that prevent them from downsizing. The worst of these is France. A huge country, LSG sells almost nothing there yet has a relatively large sales force.
-LSG should have control over its own sales organizations. This goes back to the subsidiary model. Get rid of these tin horn dictators, especially Sanjiv, and put the sales organizations under real sales managers. Most of the sub manager are diagnostics folks and don't know and care about LSG. Then some are just idiots like Sanjiv.
-Kill 20% of the products that are underperformers.
-Stop investing in projects that should have been done ten years ago, i.e. new gels, new chromatography systems.
-Start investing in acquiring some consumables, especially antibodies. Stop pretending that little venture in China will actually result in something tangible (except poor quality antibodies).
-The biggest thing that needs to be done is for the Schwartz family to give up their voting control over the BOD. Sell off some class B shares to individual investors and funds. They need some outside opinion but not so much of direction driven by investment analysts. A balance would be best.

Is JH still managing LSG? I heard a rumor that he was moved out of this position a while back. If not JH, who is the new manager?
JH is on a special project. He was replaced by SJ from manufacturing. Nice guy, but no strategic product knowledge or market knowledge.

I just applied for a sr mgt position. The requirements were that I needed to be a washed up has been looking for a place to end my career or a lifer with no relevant experience.

Is JH still managing LSG? I heard a rumor that he was moved out of this position a while back. If not JH, who is the new manager?

The entire Waltham, MA operation should be shut down and relocated. The cost of keeping it open does not really merit the cost. No idea why the management keeps it open. The people there can move west or easily be replaced.
There are a lot of offices and facilities that should be shut down. But that will only happen if there is a strong leader willing to make hard decisions and who has a strategy. That is not BC, nor NS, nor any other senior manager.

"I heard BC is looking to move to Life Tech as soon as he possibly can"

Really doubt this statement. Why would this guy leave unless he is forced to do so? His total compensation was over $950K for 2009. Pretty nice package for a guy who knows very little and does even less to get the business to grow.

He and all of the other lifer's there are like ticks. They are planted firmly there and will suck out all they can for as long as they can.

The entire Waltham, MA operation should be shut down and relocated. The cost of keeping it open does not really merit the cost. No idea why the management keeps it open. The people there can move west or easily be replaced.

I wish they dumped it already. I haven't seen such a bad managed company! Good managers are gone or forced to change their position-
do you know what's gonna happen with the subsidaries? they cost alot of money...they should just close some of those..

"Any predictions as to when LSG will just be dumped?"
long time rumor was NS looking for LSG buyer before recession. What's the progress so far?

'The whole company is messed up from the top down. NS would have been a mediocre middle manager at best, if not for being the son of DS. DS is no longer able to keep up with the company strategy and sleeps through most meetings.' 
Not just messed up, but floundering too.
Any predictions as to when LSG will just be dumped?

The whole company is messed up from the top down. NS would have been a mediocre middle manager at best, if not for being the son of DS. DS is no longer able to keep up with the company strategy and sleeps through most meetings.

'I heard BC is looking to move to Life Tech as soon as he possibly can.'

He's out of his league at Life. He probably has been dreaming of going there for years, I wonder how long Life has had his resume. He's lucky if he can get a mid-level Director position there.

If that's the case for BC, what about the poor saps that work for him. They must be even more pathetic and couldn't find jobs at other companies if they wanted to. And they better start working hard, because LSG is going down the tubes. J**n S**aldi was smart saw the writing on the wall, and was quick to take his Harvard MBA and get the heck out of there.

Where would BR QSD move to????

'I heard BC is looking to move to Life Tech as soon as he possibly can.'

He's out of his league at Life. He probably has been dreaming of going there for years, I wonder how long Life has had his resume. He's lucky if he can get a mid-level Director position there.

I heard BC is looking to move to Life Tech as soon as he possibly can.

it's true, they're developing one, but not sure when it will come to market-
Do you mean they're seriously developing a flow cytometer? Didn't they have one years ago? This will be another case of last to market and then wonder why it's not successful.

it's true, they're developing one, but not sure when it will come to market-

so what's going on with Bio-rad? any more lay offs? What a company...