Bio-Rad LSG: Why doesn't anyone here talk about it?

Have they become that irrelevant in the industry, or are they that perfect?

Oh my god, Crutchfield's

Oh my god, Crutchfield's compensation was close to a million bucks? Um, wow, is everyone at BioRad so well compensated? Not bad for a kid with a BS from Davis. They're not doing rocket science at Bio Rad; gels and resins big deal.
But pretty much everybody buys resins and gels, so it makes money.

Why so much attention -

Why so much attention - BioRad is a second grade company run by dubious "leaders.

Idiot doesn't fall far from

Idiot doesn't fall far from the tree at BR. Area idiots hiring regional idiots is one way to protect your job.

There are so many idiot

There are so many idiot managers at LSG

They are not idiots. They are cabinet member of a "regime" (similar to former Iraqi government).
Since their sole goal is their own survivor, they really don't care whether their decisions are stupid or not.

For example, RP at LSD is as smart as PhD. But he focus 99% on whether his team are all "yes" man. As a result, LSD R&D always fell behind in competitions.

In short, RP and other LSG managers are not idiots, they are evil instead.

There are so many idiot

There are so many idiot managers at LSG

My question is why are so

My question is why are so many Bio-Rad execs (GS, NR, LP,etc) moving onto other companies yet still hob-nobbing with the existing top green weenies. Something's a brewin

One of these days, Bio-Rad will figure out how to reclaim market share in the gel electrophoresis market (or not). Invitro robbed them blind back when Bio-Rad was busy thinking their market share was safe.. ahh, gotta love idiots.

Tick tock . . tick tock

Irrelevant? Not so much. They

Irrelevant? Not so much. They are just complacent as hell. They had some innovative thinkers and scientists back in their hey day, but now idiots are trying to keep the ship afloat. Those very same idiots have a profound ability to chase rising stars away. Just give em enough rope and they will take care of themselves

Take LSD for example, they have "scientist" with such names"

BS (bullshit??)
LL (liar liar??)
RP (repeat repeat??)

Irrelevant? Not so much.

Irrelevant? Not so much. They are just complacent as hell. They had some innovative thinkers and scientists back in their hey day, but now idiots are trying to keep the ship afloat. Those very same idiots have a profound ability to chase rising stars away. Just give em enough rope and they will take care of themselves

Oh my god, Crutchfield's

Oh my god, Crutchfield's compensation was close to a million bucks? Um, wow, is everyone at BioRad so well compensated? Not bad for a kid with a BS from Davis. They're not doing rocket science at Bio Rad; gels and resins big deal.

What "new" products does LSG

What "new" products does LSG have in development? Anything?

LSG = lie sex and gossip. For

LSG = lie sex and gossip. For sex part, except NS's old story, and SC at SELDI unit; any new story?
Sex, are you kidding. There are no hot women in LSG. You did forget the ED/JB story from years ago.

One more: Richmond plant manager HG

BRad is a joke. A fourth rate

BRad is a joke. A fourth rate company at best. Be glad you do not work here.

LSG = lie sex and gossip. For

LSG = lie sex and gossip. For sex part, except NS's old story, and SC at SELDI unit; any new story?
Sex, are you kidding. There are no hot women in LSG. You did forget the ED/JB story from years ago.

LSG = lie sex and gossip For

LSG = lie sex and gossip

For sex part, except NS's old story, and SC at SELDI unit; any new story?

Beat the life out of Life?

Beat the life out of Life? Man boobs can't you come up with something better than that.
Man boobs=BC? If not, he could certainly qualify for larda$$, as wide as it is.

who is man boobs? AG?

who is man boobs?
AG?

LSG=Losers Should Give-up

LSG=Losers Should Give-up

LSG=Least Successful Group

LSG=Least Successful Group

who is man boobs?

who is man boobs?

Beat the life out of Life?

Beat the life out of Life? Man boobs can't you come up with something better than that

LSG = Life Science Garbage

LSG = Life Science Garbage

I agree 100%!

I agree 100%!

LSG = incompetence, top to

LSG = incompetence, top to bottom.

Worst acronym ever...

LSG = incompetence, top to

LSG = incompetence, top to bottom.

Thermo-fisher seems intent to

Thermo-fisher seems intent to buy LSG to strength their PCR and other product lines. Any inside story?

Bio-Rad LSG marketing is

Bio-Rad LSG marketing is pathetic. They think they have a strategy but really don't. They just copy every one else's work and pretend it's a better product.

I am not opposed to spending

I am not opposed to spending time in the field I am opposed to wasting MORE time in the field. ROI? We have over 200 reps in the US collaborating with customers daily. Tap into that knowledge base.
If you expect the sales force to give you that information, than what would be your job to do? Color coordinate product literature?
Why does BR even bother having a marketing group?

I am not opposed to spending

I am not opposed to spending time in the field I am opposed to wasting MORE time in the field. ROI? We have over 200 reps in the US collaborating with customers daily. Tap into that knowledge base.
It is NOT the job of the sales force to do your market research. Their primary function is to sell what is available. They are a good secondary source. Marketing should be in front of customers as much as possible.
If you've got a better idea why don't you present it to management instead of complaining on this forum during work hours.

“Wow, what a terrible idea. I

“Wow, what a terrible idea. I can't imagine being forced to leave my office to actually go out and talk to people. Ridiculous.”
“Its a wonder why Biorad can't make an innovative product. The people who work there don't want to leave the building. While their management may not be great, it seems like lunacy from top to bottom. I am no fan of Biorad, but that ain't so crazy an idea.”
“Hmmm, you don't want to know what your customers want? LSG management is dumb but you are even dumber.”

I am not opposed to spending time in the field I am opposed to wasting MORE time in the field. ROI? We have over 200 reps in the US collaborating with customers daily. Tap into that knowledge base.

I'm being asked to spend more

I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing.

Hmmm, you don't want to know what your customers want? LSG management is dumb but you are even dumber.

I forgot to mention I am the janitor.

I'm being asked to spend more

I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing.

Hmmm, you don't want to know what your customers want? LSG management is dumb but you are even dumber.

"I'm being asked to spend

"I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work"

Its a wonder why Biorad can't make an innovative product. The people who work there don't want to leave the building. While their management may not be great, it seems like lunacy from top to bottom. I am no fan of Biorad, but that ain't so crazy an idea.

"I'm being asked to spend

"I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing."

Wow, what a terrible idea. I can't imagine being forced to leave my office to actually go out and talk to people. Ridiculous.

I'm being asked to spend more

I'm being asked to spend more time in the field with reps and less time in the office? What a bunch of nonsense, busy work. We spend too much time on the road as it is. Another brilliant idea from our leaders that will result in nothing.

Time to rate managers again.

Time to rate managers again. Let's have some feedback on BC, PC, AT, SH, BK, TT, etc.
All provide no value and have no lack of strategic direction, except to copy other companies' products. They couldn't get jobs at other companies if they tried.
BC's whole customer focus is a losing proposition until you hire new people with that philosophy in manufacturing and other operational groups. Marketing and sales can't be the only customer focused groups.

Time to rate managers again.

Time to rate managers again. Let's have some feedback on BC, PC, AT, SH, BK, TT, etc.

It is the best job I have

It is the best job I have ever had. On a busy week, I work maybe 8 hrs and still make plan every quarter.

I'm thankful I don't work at

I'm thankful I don't work at this dysfunctional company any longer. LSG will continue to spiral into irrelevance in the life science research community.

BC will continue to collect his >$900k per year, continue to hire and promote mediocre managers, stab loyal employees in the back, and anything else he needs to do to cover his backside.

I'm so lucky I don't work for

I'm so lucky I don't work for Bio-Rad any more. If you have a business degree and you are good at politics, you can easily be a CEO in Bio-Rad!!

A manager should broaden our

A manager should broaden our outlook, push us beyond our comfort zones, help us be successful, exemplify the corporate values, and focus us on learning, serving, persevering, leading, and advancing. My manager does none of this, does yours?

They are all stick and no

They are all stick and no carrot, where everyone should be the same corporate reflection. Eventually, the rah-rah sis boom bah culture produces one question: "Why?"

Paying for surveys is a

Paying for surveys is a Bio-Sad strategy. It is a mediocre place to work at best. Most of my managers have been ineffective, knowledgeless, arrogant, kool-aide drinking cheerleaders. They are glorified C players that have been promoted in order to perpetuate mediocrity.

NS's statement "We are living

NS's statement "We are living in the 'golden age of biology' and Bio-Rad is in a great position to make meaningful contributions to the advancement of science and healthcare." is funny. Does he or his management team understand biology/ science at all?

It was copied/pasted from a press release from 15 years ago?

NS's statement "We are living

NS's statement "We are living in the 'golden age of biology' and Bio-Rad is in a great position to make meaningful contributions to the advancement of science and healthcare."
is funny.

Does he or his management team understand biology/ science at all?

This all comes to the

This all comes to the background of the top management. Check it out and you would know.

All these payola 'surveys'

All these payola 'surveys' are meaningless. Any company can be on top of a 'survey' at any time.

working so many years for

working so many years for Bio-rad, made me bitter for Biotech industry-therefore I don't understand why Bio-rad is one of the best places to work for...This is just a ridiculous survey

Bio-Rad is not a great place

Bio-Rad is not a great place to work. I thought this ranking was pretty laughable.

Here is the bad:
This is one of the cheapest companies I have ever seen. Examples the $50 Amex gift card at Christmas -funds to cover it come from employees being required to use corp Amex card for expenses. Stock options and bonuses only go to top management.
There are some pretty ineffective managers there. PC, BC, SK, KB, LC, JW, RK, KB, EL, etc.
Real lack of innovation -very conservative approach to technology. Do not expect to be on the cutting edge of science there.
Politics -some of the worst I have seen. People building and protecting their own little kingdoms. Makes for a lot of unproductive effort.

The good:
They offer some pretty decent training, so it is a good place to learn

So some third rate biz rag

So some third rate biz rag ran a shoddy survey. Doesn't change their poorly run HR department. Bio-Rad is still a cheap company to work for. NS is dreaming in that press release. Actually, he's probably just dreaming of retiring. They pay poorly and it's full of people either hoping to retire soon, too lazy to go someplace better, low-achievers, and a few optimists hoping that things will improve.

Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. (NYSE: BIO) and (NYSE: BIO.B), has been named one of the 'Best Places to Work' in the San Francisco Bay Area for 2010 by the San Francisco Business Times.

said Norman Schwartz, Bio-Rad President and Chief Executive Officer. "We are living in the 'golden age of biology' and Bio-Rad is in a great position to make meaningful contributions to the advancement of science and healthcare."

How credible does this ranking mean?

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