Bio-Rad LSG: Why doesn't anyone here talk about it?

Have they become that irrelevant in the industry, or are they that perfect?

Aside dpcr, what else did BR

Aside dpcr, what else did BR do in the last 5 years.... oh wait, Ciphergen.

At least the copycat 'new products' were functional (for the most part) and with a awaiting market. The same can't be said for ddPCR; ddPCR R&D is practically still being done on the fly with every demo and rare placement that happens.

While life tech is pushing

While life tech is pushing out next gen sequencing instruments and new diagnostic kits, not to mention leading the field in PCR and qPCR, BR is too busy making copycat cyclers and chromatography instruments. Aside dpcr, what else did BR do in the last 5 years.... oh wait, Ciphergen.

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And what will become of them -- in the process of being carved up and dished out piece by piece to the highest bidder, jobs whacked and millionaires getting richer. They sure did accomplish a lot. Quite a different accomplishment, wouldn't you say?

What is the difference

What is the difference between chemist II and Research associate II ?

"You are either in your 20's

"You are either in your 20's or an incredibly ignorant person...."

I will take both the characterizations as compliments. I am NOT in my 20s anymore and I am certainly ignorant.(definitely not a know-it-all)

"David Schwartz was one of the early visionaries of this industry..."
Certainly will desrve more than just a small foot-note !

Yes an amazing start......very few would say that of the current management...bad finish.

"Life Tech accomplished the

"Life Tech accomplished the same thing in less than 10"

Don't you mean: ABI/Gibco/Invitrogen/LifeTech/MolecularProbes/Novex/Ambion/Genicon/Sequitur/BioReliance/Zymed/Dynal/Quantum Dot/Agencourt/Cascade/CellzDirect/BioTrove/Acrometrix/GeneArt/Stokes Bio/Ion Torrent---Technologies

And what will become of them -- in the process of being carved up and dished out piece by piece to the highest bidder, jobs whacked and millionaires getting richer. They sure did accomplish a lot. Quite a different accomplishment, wouldn't you say?

...the company he formed has

...the company he formed has helped hundreds of thousands of researchers over what must be about 60 years. 60 years?

Life Tech accomplished the same thing in less than 10.

"Its never about the "starts"

"Its never about the "starts" its about the "finishes" ! When the stories of science are eventually told.........BioRad would not even deserve a footnote!

Innovation, invention, discovery, originality, creativity..........which of these words would you ever use for BioRad ?"

You are either in your 20's or an incredibly ignorant person when it comes to this business. David Schwartz was one of the early visionaries of this industry and the company he formed has helped hundreds of thousands of researchers over what must be about 60 years. No, I don't work for Bio-Rad -- I actually work for a competitor and you clearly have a lot to learn about success, science and respect. Bio-Rad is one of the companies that helped pave the way for those of us who now compete against it. Perhaps some day you will look into the history of this business and understand its roots before making such a shallow comment.

Come on be fair. Biorad are

Come on be fair.
Biorad are an American company, All that matters is profit. They don't care about science or innovation.

We've gotten off to great

We've gotten off to great start in 2012, in spite of the bad economy. As posted previously, those negative posts must be coming from competitors or those who can't handle working here.

Now we understand why the DBC hasn't developed anything since the QL acquisition - they were too busy developing a time machine. Phase Two will be a 'wish machine.'

"We've gotten off to great

"We've gotten off to great start in.........."

Its never about the "starts" its about the "finishes" ! When the stories of science are eventually told.........BioRad would not even deserve a footnote!

Innovation, invention, discovery, originality, creativity..........which of these words would you ever use for BioRad ?

It is 2013 now. Face the

It is 2013 now. Face the fact!

We've gotten off to great

We've gotten off to great start in 2012, in spite of the bad economy. As posted previously, those negative posts must be coming from competitors or those who can't handle working here.

Yes, just like you stumbled

Yes, just like you stumbled into a career at Bio-Rad.
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Hehe! Still just looking around! Not part of the "real world" quite yet.

Funny how bitter some people are ;)

First the FCPA ballyhoo in

First the FCPA ballyhoo in 2011, now this?

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0992475.htm

Bio-Rad Form 10-K Filing Delayed

March 04, 2013: 08:00 AM ET

Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. (NYSE: BIO) and (NYSE: BIO.B), a multinational manufacturer and distributor of life science research and clinical diagnostic products, announced today that the filing of its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2012 has been delayed beyond the due date of March 1, 2013 because Bio-Rad has not finalized its assessment of the effectiveness of its internal control over financial reporting and has not finalized an accrual for royalties payable by the Company at December 31, 2012 under certain patent licenses from a third party.

As previously reported, Bio-Rad has enhanced and is continuing to improve and evaluate its internal control over financial reporting, including its processes and procedures relating to compliance with the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA). Bio-Rad's Audit Committee conducted an investigation into conduct at the Company's overseas operations that may have violated the FCPA, and Bio-Rad voluntarily disclosed these matters to the U.S. Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission, each of which is conducting an ongoing investigation. The Audit Committee has determined to continue its investigation based on matters that arose in connection with an assessment of the Company's accrual for royalties payable by the Company under the patent licenses from a third party.

Bio-Rad expects to finalize its assessment of the effectiveness of its internal control over financial reporting, finalize its accrual for the royalties at December 31, 2012 to the third party and file the Form 10-K as soon as practicable. Bio-Rad today filed a Notification of Late Filing on Form 12b-25 with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Truthfully, I stumbled upon

Truthfully, I stumbled upon this wasteland of anonymous internet gossip upon entering "Bio-Rad pay grades" into my beloved Google search bar.

Yes, just like you stumbled into a career at Bio-Rad.

Pay grades and respective

Pay grades and respective salary ranges are all posted on livelink, it's hidden in the HR section. It was there a few weeks ago when I checked (along with a ppt for managers on how to deal with pissed-off employees during annual review, with words like "I understand how you feel", "it was a rough year for everyone" and "There's a ton of upside in this situation"

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I'm flattered, really. 20 years experience was inferred from my facetious comment? I actually only have 22 years of experience on this planet. The only bench upon which I sat 20 years ago was my diaper-changing bench back when I was a wittle-bitty wee baby (inb4 TMI).

Truthfully, I stumbled upon this wasteland of anonymous internet gossip upon entering "Bio-Rad pay grades" into my beloved Google search bar.

Normally I refrain from involving myself in such ridiculous activities, but I was bored that day. There's your cool-story for the day.

Cheerio!

*********** Hey, I know this

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Hey, I know this guy. He works in R&D and likes to use big words to show how smart he is. Yet, he's spent the past 20 years as a bench scientist because nobody can stand to be around him, and there's no way anybody would put him in front of customers. He aspires to be in marketing. You can tell because he used the branding guidelines in his make-believe product name.
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I'm flattered, really. 20 years experience was inferred from my facetious comment? I actually only have 22 years of experience on this planet. The only bench upon which I sat 20 years ago was my diaper-changing bench back when I was a wittle-bitty wee baby (inb4 TMI).

Truthfully, I stumbled upon this wasteland of anonymous internet gossip upon entering "Bio-Rad pay grades" into my beloved Google search bar.

Normally I refrain from involving myself in such ridiculous activities, but I was bored that day. There's your cool-story for the day.

Cheerio!

Those surveys assume that

Those surveys assume that exempt and non-exempt employees have equal votes. If I work in manufacturing, unionized and have access to the benefits (which to be honest, is slightly better than McDonalds and WalMart), of course this is a great place to work. Ever check out the parking lot at 4 pm??
Dot.com and technology firms do not have this level of manufacturing, it's all computers and programs and not unionized. Ask anyone at Bio-Rad if they'll jump at an offer from google, most would be gone by lunch time (maybe except SJ and BC, who doesn't really do anything except travel)

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Those here being so negative about Bio-Rad have to be jealous employees from a competitor.
Seriously, think about it. Bio-Rad was selected as one of the ‘2012 Best Places to Work’ in the San Francisco bay area by the prestigious San Francisco Business Times and the Silicon Valley/San Jose Business Journal.

Even other much more visible companies in the Bay Area like Google, Yahoo, etc., did not get this award, so Bio-Rad must be doing something right.

Me too the view is spot on

Me too the view is spot on

Hey, I know this guy. He

Hey, I know this guy. He works in R&D and likes to use big words to show how smart he is. Yet, he's spent the past 20 years as a bench scientist because nobody can stand to be around him, and there's no way anybody would put him in front of customers. He aspires to be in marketing. You can tell because he used the branding guidelines in his make-believe product name.
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Yes. I agree with this critical thinking-influenced, absolutely parsimonious explanation of what must be occurring behind-the-scenes at Bio-Rad.

The evil executives have brainwashed their masses (using the Bio-Rad BrainWasherX1000, mind you) to the point that they actually falsely belive they are working in a good environment.

Could it be that it's simply a pretty solid place to work, and that this fact is communicated via trivials things such as media ratings for places in which to work? --Absolutely not. It is far more logical to conclude that everyone is mindless, brainwashed, lying, etc.

Now if you will kindly excuse me...I believe my mechanic just called-- to my delight he's managed to remove the dents from my tinfoil hat!

Yes. I agree with this

Yes. I agree with this critical thinking-influenced, absolutely parsimonious explanation of what must be occurring behind-the-scenes at Bio-Rad.

The evil executives have brainwashed their masses (using the Bio-Rad BrainWasherX1000, mind you) to the point that they actually falsely belive they are working in a good environment.

Could it be that it's simply a pretty solid place to work, and that this fact is communicated via trivials things such as media ratings for places in which to work? --Absolutely not. It is far more logical to conclude that everyone is mindless, brainwashed, lying, etc.

Now if you will kindly excuse me...I believe my mechanic just called-- to my delight he's managed to remove the dents from my tinfoil hat!

Ha ha ha. Best place to

Ha ha ha. Best place to work. Any company can collect votes from some rag. Just because a majority of un-motivated, comfortable, overpaid workers vote for it, doesn't make it true. Most have been with Bio-Rad since the dawn of time and don't know any better.

I think I know what must have

I think I know what must have occurred:

Bio-Rad paid SF Business Times for the award. The reality is that the ratio of [customers served : customers dissatisfied] = 1 and that 100.0% of global employees rank their happiness at 0 on a 0-1000 scale.

This concisely explains why Bio-Rad may exist as an evil, tanking, Communist place, yet at the same time bask in the accolades and praise bestowed upon the company by third-party evaluators.

Sincerely,
World Expert Internet Discussion Analyst, MD, PhD, DDS, JD

Those here being so negative

Those here being so negative about Bio-Rad have to be jealous employees from a competitor.
Seriously, think about it. Bio-Rad was selected as one of the ‘2012 Best Places to Work’ in the San Francisco bay area by the prestigious San Francisco Business Times and the Silicon Valley/San Jose Business Journal.

Even other much more visible companies in the Bay Area like Google, Yahoo, etc., did not get this award, so Bio-Rad must be doing something right.

Look at the quality of this

Look at the quality of this "internal" conversation.........No wonder you are irrelevant !

Funny.

Funny.

Laughing yet crying at the

Laughing yet crying at the same time over this comment. It's true these witches have chopped a number of good people to save their own large posteriors. They could not survive at other companies.
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Funny you mention RLA. LSD management is a bunch of witches with loser husbands. So they resort to any methods possible to keep their job and eliminate any threat.

Here's the food chain: RLA > RS > SH > ME. Yes, SH is just a figure-head but need the job because she won't be employed anywhere else

Funny you mention RLA. LSD

Funny you mention RLA. LSD management is a bunch of witches with loser husbands. So they resort to any methods possible to keep their job and eliminate any threat.

Here's the food chain: RLA > RS > SH > ME. Yes, SH is just a figure-head but need the job because she won't be employed anywhere else

We have hundreds of thousands

We have hundreds of thousands of customers in over 70 countries. New ones served with a smile everyday.

Is this discussion about Bio-Rad or McDonald's?

Not if you have BioRad on

Not if you have BioRad on your CV !! Specially for more than 3 years.

3 years if in sales, it takes even less time if in Marketing

"Hey! I'm a customer too and

"Hey! I'm a customer too and I am dumping Bio-Rad.

Signed,
Anonymous Customer Person"

I didn't think that I had to add the 'with much sarcasm' footnote.
Consider it added now. Settle down, folks...

"Fear not...there are plenty

"Fear not...there are plenty of jobs out there"

Not if you have BioRad on your CV !! Specially for more than 3 years.

'We have hundreds of

'We have hundreds of thousands of customers in over 70 countries. New ones served with a smile everyday. Stop you asinine chatter already on who is a customer and who is not. Morons.'

You can't possibly be a biorad employee - Africa has only 54 countries, not over 70

F**K them. if they want to go

F**K them. if they want to go somewhere else let them.

I think the attitude on this

I think the attitude on this site to anyone who dares to say they have issues with the company speaks volumes about the superiority complex that some of us have towards customers. Would it not be more beneficial to find the reason we lose customers rather than class them all as idiots or liars that we are better off without.

We have hundreds of thousands

We have hundreds of thousands of customers in over 70 countries. New ones served with a smile everyday. Stop your asinine chatter already on who is a customer and who is not. Morons.

We have hundreds of thousands

We have hundreds of thousands of customers in over 70 countries. New ones served with a smile everyday. Stop you asinine chatter already on who is a customer and who is not. Morons.

'Oh and I'm meaning as a

'Oh and I'm meaning as a customer.'

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Yes, of course you are. It is

Yes, of course you are. It is easy to pretend to be a customer on here.

This website doesn't support the Hindi or Mandarin character set, so I'd agree that these posters pretending to be customers are definitely impostors.

"Well I'm sorry to tell you I

"Well I'm sorry to tell you I had been a biorad customer for many years but now no longer"

Hey! I'm a customer too and I am dumping Bio-Rad.

Signed,
Anonymous Customer Person

"It is easy to pretend to be

"It is easy to pretend to be a customer on here."

Yes I'm sure you would prefer that to be true. After all what customer would ever have the audacity to dump biorad.

Well I'm sorry to tell you I had been a biorad customer for many years but now no longer

"Oh and I'm meaning as a

"Oh and I'm meaning as a customer"

Yes, of course you are. It is easy to pretend to be a customer on here.

No hidden meanings, no

No hidden meanings, no ulterior motive but the best thing I ever did was leave Biorad.

Oh and I'm meaning as a customer.

Think about it.......where

Think about it.......where would they go ? Not many places to go to. No greener pastures around.

If you're getting advice like that from coworkers who have been at Biorad a long time or haven't worked anywhere else in the same capacity, there's your first red flag.

Fear not...there are plenty of jobs out there, there's a whole world out there beyond the irrelevant microscopic world of Biorad.

 

 

"and I suppose "need to stop

"and I suppose "need to stop laughing now and go back to work" Is insightful and perceptive."

The idea of Bio-Rad selling off PCR and Blood transfusion is definitely laughable and ridiculous.

Surely even someone with limited comprehension can see the difference between that that persons comment and yours.

The banter here between companies can be amusing, but when a comment such as yours has absolutely no substance at all, it is just childish name-calling.

"Yours is yet another useless

"Yours is yet another useless throw-off comment that adds no value to the discussion."

Really?

and I suppose "need to stop laughing now and go back to work" Is insightful and perceptive.

Typical of another Biorad hypocrite.

"Yeh. Like anyone at Biorad

"Yeh. Like anyone at Biorad does any work"

Do you seriously believe this???

At any company, no matter what you may think of them, there are passionate people.

Yours is yet another useless throw-off comment that adds no value to the discussion.

"need to stop laughing now

"need to stop laughing now and go back to work"

Yeh. Like anyone at Biorad does any work.

PCR, Transfusion? Clearly you

PCR, Transfusion? Clearly you refer to the break up of CDG and you should start a new thread if you want to discuss it.

This thread is about the systematic break up and selling off of LSG.

"I hear Biorad are selling

"I hear Biorad are selling off PCR and blood transfusion. Anybody any info?"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

puh

need to stop laughing now and go back to work

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