I need to get the following data to prep my up coming interview: how much gross sales right after three company acquired and how much Siemens paid in total for the merger. I used to remember them but got lost in the transition. Please help!

ps. if you don't know the answer, just let me alone, no BS!

I don't get it. Siemens has announced at the Healthcare level that 1200 would get laid-off, or 8% of the Siemens DX workforce. This was announced in December, 2011. Has the DX management been saying something different? What did Reitermann's letter say, anything different, or just reinforcing the message?

They also announced that the Radiation Oncology (RO) business would be phased out (it's under the CT BU). However, this is in Germany so they're trying to find jobs for the employees in other Siemens positions. BUT, RO is a MUCH smaller group than DX!!!

I don't envy the DX management - even though they still have "jobs", how fun can it be to decide how to cut costs so drastically? Worse yet, most are cleaning up someone else's mess. Management and business in only fun when you're GROWING...

Yesterday's cheers of relief were definitely short lived at CrossPoint after Reitermann's letter came out.
We were told this was a one day 8% layoff schedule.
We were once again lied to.
230! The remaining 800 over next year or two...and probably sooner rather than later.
Our Site Head needs to get her story right.
Emphasis on the word "story".

Reitermann and his crew need to go. Think of how much money they can save doing that.

UPDATE:

First, no layoffs in LA today.
All layoffs were sporadically done throughout east coast.

So what's going on? Less than 1/3 of scheduled 8% layoffs took place today. Only 230 were let go. An additional 800-1000 (depends on Europe layoffs) will be gone between now and two years.
You should read Reitermann's letter which also came out today.
230! As we've said on the DEUCE thread many times, this is only the first of scheduled layoffs for 2012.
It's beginning to look like they want LA gone in one layoff schedule considering no one was let go this time.
Get your resumes done people.

So breath a sigh of relief...it will be short.
Just ask Anadelle who knows 230 doesn't come close to how many will be let go.

LA is just twisting ... slowly ... slowly .... in the wind. Apparently Siemens and the masochists left in LA want the torture to continue.

"LA is NOT fine. It still exists and is still a source of bleeding for Siemens."

What do you want to do, man??? No matter how you hate it, LA is still open and NOT affacted at all today.

"70 noted in LA on ARMAGEDDEN thread..."

NONSENSE!!!

LA is NOT fine. It still exists and is still a source of bleeding for Siemens. There are no surprises here for those in LA. You have all known for years that 100 % of your jobs were going to be eliminated. No guessing, no mystery. LA has had years to prepare and the people there have had more than ample opportunity to make appropriate plans for their future. If anyone deserves sympathy today, its the folks on the East Coast. They have had little time to prepare and, until today, had some reason to believe that their job might be saved. The time for sympathy for LA has come and gone. Now it's someone elses turn.

70 noted in LA on ARMAGEDDEN thread...

LA is fine!

So what's going on in LA?

Good post since a long time ago. Thanks man or woman.

Breath People Breath.

First: This is not a Mandatory Town Hall.
LA will not be shutting down tomorrow. Maybe in 3-6months but not tomorrow.
Second: This is just the first layoff of 2012. Despite what you've heard (Anadelle) there will be more throughout the year.
That part only makes sense.
Take whatever you're told tomorrow with a grain of salt. Your Site Head is only telling you what she was told to tell you.
She also needs you to keep working diligently until relocating manufacturing is done.
But, for crying out loud, get your resumes ready!
Third: Departmental changes start tomorrow. Some layoffs as well.
So roll with the punches and prepare to enter the job market.

I thought all of us staying at DX are dead wood. The real smart green wood are the ones long gone.

What and who remains will mean nothing. What talent exists means nothing. Siemens DX is doomed to fail simply by its internal hostility. There is almost zero sense of teamwork. No support for one another. No sense of common mission and purpose. And the Germans don't realize that their slogans and cheerleading are completely ineffective with American workers (in contrast to how well they can work in Germany). The internal blame game and name calling is out of control.

Yeah right.

You mean the 1000+ dead wood across DX? Good name calling.

there will be more profit after the dead wood is set adrift

"wwd dx sales +3% over 1st qtr 2011"

Profits, please, not sales.

wwd dx sales +3% over 1st qtr 2011

"what will happen to biochem in LA"

On what planet do you live? What do you think is going to happen? LA is gone; all gone; lock, stock, barrel, biochem ... everything. Only the final date is uncertain. How can you possibly ask 'what will happen' at this late date? How can one reconcile your question with all of the claims of superiority from the DPC scientists?

I'm getting a headache. Please pass the aspirin.

what will happen to biochem in LA

Friday? Tomorrow? Can't you folks in Tinseltown do anything without a bit of drama? Somehow it's just fitting that you can't even agree one when the final act begins.

No, the townhall meeting'll be 10:30 am tomorrow!

LA site @9 am Jan 20. Be ready to move on folks.

Some Sites are saying they'll be told Wednesday morning about layoff cuts.
Any news in LA yet?

There were two projects scheduled to be released in the 2012-2013 timeframe. The first WAS GeneMess, which is dead. The backup plan is XP refresh, which should be on time.

Is that Royal Trinidad or Trinidad Royal? Is this the so-called 2012 system we heard about a few years ago?

There is a new platform on the horizon, Royal, and it will save DX!!!

It would be a minimum of 3-5 years before DX "could" put a new platform on the market.
DX, in its current incarnation, does not have 3-5 years left.
Germany will not accept a loss each quarter and the customers which bailed will never come back.
No one thought this out before spending $13B?

The only possible financial damage control DX has is letting go employee's and closing up sites like LA.
I totally agree on a 20% layoff over the next 1-2years.
They also need to sell-off or shutdown certain platforms as well.
Letting things get as bad as they are, and continue to spiral down, is a textbook case they'll be using in MBA schools for years to come.

mit oder ohne Blasen? Ist IMS noch am Leben?

Tarrytown is developing Trinidad, an amalgam of all three assay technologies. The project might as well have been named "Hail Mary" after the horrible Vista and GeneMess development fiascos.

Therein lies the dilemna for Siemens. Maintaining all of those different systems from different companies is a nightmare for service and support. Despite all of the talk of lousy management in service, the biggest issues is that it's impossible for the guy in the field to be able to service all of the different systems and do it well. I'm sure that another part of the problem lies in the 2-3 different R&D inputs, each one claiming that the new Siemens system be built off of the technology they know best. I just can't see all of the R&D experts from all of the sites getting together and building on their expertise rather than arguing about who's best and then coming up with a 'best of all sites' proposal for a new family of instruments that play together and met the needs to today's customers.

It is amazing to watch Siemens follow in Bayer's steps.Both failed miserably in the due diligence phase and both believed there were products just ready for launch and success. Both underestimated the difficulties of integration (Bayer was integrating Miles and Technicon into on DX unit that had to be further integrated into Bayer Healthcare). Both failed to understand the cost to actually get the products in the pipeline into the market and the commonplace early extra level of support required when things happen in the field that hadn't been seen during development. This pretty much happens with all new systems which is why most companies launch with both hotline and 'swat' teams in place. And just like Bayer, when Siemens faced the reality and the extra costs and financial losses, they are balking at more investing which they will have to do in order to have a future. And what's worse is that it winds up looking like a retreat to customers and that scares them off more. It's a real mess for Siemens now and there is no simple solution. The layoffs that will occur this year and possibly into the future can temporarily make the balance sheets look better. There don't seem to be any easy or acceptable solutions to secure DX for the long term.

I wish that was the case but, for the time being, it isn't.
No DX Site on east coast is developing any new platforms. MR is spending money on Centaur, Vista and maintaining Immulite.
If any new platform was in the works, here or abroad, it would be known. Siemens is concentrating its money on Healthcare products which have an excellent return. #1 is IMAGING.
Yes, short term mindset is on layoffs but they will continue throughout 2012. To believe this is a one shot layoff "fix-all" deal is just plain silly. As more customers bail quarterly and revenue/growth continues to go nowhere you'll continue to see a cleaning of house.
An 8% layoff doesn't come close to what needs to be done...or what will eventually be done. Think closer to 20% within 1-2years with more than 1 US Site Closure as well.
Then there's the issue of R&D development of a new platform. MR does not have this as part of the current agenda.
At this rate I'm expecting him to be gone before end of year after quarterly revenue results continue to plummet.

Right now most people are focused on layoff dates. This is appropriate for the short term. Whatever reorganization they undertake is also more of short term interest. For those looking for a sign of Siemens DX long term prospects, consider this. Siemens has been in charge for roughly 5 years. For the most part, they have been busy fighting fires. They have shown nothing new to customers other than some system upgrades. It seems to me that if Siemens can't show something really new like the Siemens (not Technicon, Bayer, Chiron, Dade, DPC, Jeol) product line of the future at the AACC then they don't really have a future. This has to be more than just a concept thing; it should be a real live system that, at worst, they can say will be released in less than 2 years. Siemens, more than any of their big competitors, is in dire need of a new product line rather than the hodge podge of products they acquired from others. How can customers believe Siemens is serious without some evidence that their R&D department has been working on the future and not just fighting fires, adding a new method here and there, or upgrading software?

Just one person's opinion, mind you, but maybe something worth looking at for those interested in more than just the short term issues.

MR are you listening?

Sounds all good and sensible but it will never happen.
I've spoken with management at many other sites, attended meetings and conference calls with MR and HR in the US and...it never will happen.
Yes, they identified the numerous problems but their solutions are no solution at all.
It was only recently in a conference call meeting that MR finally admitted and accepted the fact the Integration between Bayer, Dade and DPC was a multi-multi million dollar loss.
Roche has it right. Fewer platorms, better service, leaner manufacturing and future products in the works. Siemens DX has none of this going on.

On the positive side, the first step in dealing with a problem is to understand the problem itself. It appears that MR has done that with his answer. The bigger problem is how to deal with it all. My guess is that he is getting advice from ex-Dade, ex-Bayer, and assorted other Siemens people. This means he is getting biased advice based on turf protection more than anything else. One thing that is clear is that after 5 years or so, Siemens has done virtually nothing to stop the internal competition and loyalties to prior product lines and internal cultures. Siemens has still not found a way to get all the little boys and girls to play nicely with one another and work towards a common goal rather than protecting their own ancient history. It seems that too many people at Siemens are still looking back at the good old days BS (thats, Before Siemens) and rememebering their successes, real or otherwise, forgetting their past problems and complaints with previous managemnet, and keep saying: just do things the way we used to do them at (fill in the blank) and we will all be successful.

So all MR can do in the meantime is try to hold the line with slogans and pep talks until he and his staff can unify around a comprehensive strategy and plan and then actually work together with all of the remaining employees in DX to make it happen.

In plain English here is why MR has no clue about running a Diagostics Division.
The following is a question he was asked and his response.

Question: You've mentioned Roche has a better growth rate than DX. What is this attributed to and how are we addressing it?

Reply: "Roche does have a better growth rate. As a matter of fact, the global market growth rate is 4-5% and DX is only growing approx. 1%. Unfortunately, we are losing market share to many of our key competitors. There are many things that contribuate to Roche's ability to outpace us, including a smaller number of platforms/detection technologies, stronger presence in faster growing segments, smaller manufacturing footprint, and a very lean manufacturing set up-all leading to lower costs and higher profits." END QUOTE

With all this in mind you'd think they might come up with a new business strategy targeting these problems.
But, sadly no.
His Solution:"The DX Competiveness Program will help overcome these challenges and reverse this trend."
This guy is nuts.

Cutting the cost on old platforms will bring in more customers? Maybe in Third World Countries.
Any new platforms in development? Nope.
Will customers continue to leave quarterly? You better believe it.

This ship is not sinking...it sunk already.
Expect 2012 to be riddled with layoffs and Site Closures which is the only way he can slow down the financial bleeding.

Presume no CON6 work was still being done at LA? now the plug has been pulled on that, another nail in the DPC coffin by Bayer mafia and one less reason to keep LA open another even another 12 hours.
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Yes, you are correct. No more Con6 controls (In-House DPC) will be manufactured anymore. They've switched over to BioRad's ECS controls.

Presume no CON6 work was still being done at LA? now the plug has been pulled on that, another nail in the DPC coffin by Bayer mafia and one less reason to keep LA open another even another 12 hours.

No need to apologize. The DPC people have repeatedly demonstrated here that it is possible to have a number of worth-mentioning achievements and to be part of a successful organization and, yet, still have the ability to be arrogant and have an overblown sense of self-worth. No one here ever said that DPC was bad or incompetant and most have recognized the achievements under the original Z's. Their past successes were no less remarkable than those in Tarrytown under the original Whiteheads. (We can be thankful there is no Technicon Duece thread that whines and moans about their past glory). But the DPC people have taken it a bit over the top when they suggest that they, and only they, could have accomplished certain things and that they, and only they, are or were a 'good buy' for Siemens. Good, yes; very good, probably; but unique, great, awesome ... not quite. Most companies that I know of seem to tell their employees how good they are and how they walk on water (it's alot easier to dish out excessive praise than excessive payments of salaries and benefits). It appears that many of those at DPC worked in isolation from the rest of the DX world so they have little appreciation of how they stack up against others in the industry. Nothing should be taken away from the DPC accomplishments, but this thread and others related to Siemens DX have become a vehicle for the 'injured' DPC people to brag and brag and brag. It may make them feel better, but it doesn't seem to be impressing or resonating with anyone else.

Isn't it time to accept that you have made your point about how wonderful you think DPC was and move on with your lives? We got the message and are now just getting bored and annoyed with the repetition.

Just another silly person in last post.
It's not hatred from people towards Siemens. It's business sense from people who've been there at CrossPoint and those still there.
The facility is a redundant waste of dX money.
The problem here is certain individuals (you) who live day by day afraid of losing your job (and we understand that) can't step back and without prejudice look at the wider picture.
Every other site on East Coast and Llanberis already knows this.
Whatever brains and manufacturing respect you once had are now gone. The days of Vit.D, Immulite kit development and an excellent quality control are over.
Half your allergen contracts are gone and "no" new assay developments are taking place.
Nothing left but skin and bones in a facility Siemens can't afford to waste money on anymore on your behalf.
It's not personal, it's business.
I'm sorry you just can't see that.

"Those of us already gone from this facility find it hard to believe it's actually still open."

Sorry about that you were kicked out! Hatred is not good for your health.

LA and all other DX sites got a short reprieve from Siemens on Friday. No layoffs were announced. The 800+ already scheduled for pinkslips will probably be notified this coming week.
LA in particular, with less than 200 employee's, is suffering through a major case of layoff denial.
East coast sites are expecting some trimming but nothing major.
They, as well as Llanberis, are pointing to LA for much of the current reagent problems.
So what is the truth? That part is easy. Of all Sites in US, Los Angeles, is by far the most redundant and costly in respect to size and amount of people there.
Other than some raw materials, nothing of any consequence is being produced there which cannot be done elsewhere...and less expensive. If Reitermann is looking to cut cost then this place should be #1 on his list.
Those of us already gone from this facility find it hard to believe it's actually still open. I didn't say "operational" considering the amount of failed materials it generates.
Anyway, lets see what happens next week.
We here your Site Head, Annadelle, is scheduled to have a Seminar on Friday regarding LA's Manufacturing. Her original talk regarding "Inspiration" and "Motivation" was cancelled.
Go figure.

"It's the work being done there. It can be done anywhere."

True, yet it can be said to any site at Siemens DX. That's why there's layoff coming. Let's wait and see if there's another site close in 2012.

Feel sorry for the 800+ DX employees, who are allegedly smarter and less waste than those in LA. But Siemens still subtract them. What kind of math is that?

LA building can take up to 1,000, but now less than 200. So it's waste of money. Some people really good at this sort of math. first let me remind you that its Siemens bad decision to cut LA down to 200, not LA's. if Siemens decides to cut TTN or any other DX site to 200 in the latest 2012 layoff, you may say that site is a waste too. Ain't fairness a b!tch.
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Don't be silly. It's not just the math. It's the work being done there. It can be done anywhere.
It's not "fairness". It's "business."
You're looking at it from a "I might lose my job POV". Try looking at it strictly from a business POV.
FYI: No other sites were cut anywhere near as LA. Did you think all those departments already cut at CrossPoint would be gone now also?

What are they now still left making at LA can anyone say? I don't suppose its QC's is it?

LA building can take up to 1,000, but now less than 200. So it's waste of money. Some people really good at this sort of math. first let me remind you that its Siemens bad decision to cut LA down to 200, not LA's. if Siemens decides to cut TTN or any other DX site to 200 in the latest 2012 layoff, you may say that site is a waste too. Ain't fairness a b!tch.

The Chinese won't buy technology they can pirate.

"RIA at one facility and Immulite raw materials at CrossPoint. Would not take longer than 3-6months to move any and all of Immulite raw materials to any Site on east coast or Llanberis. It's not brain surgery. Have Batch Record will travel.
The past year had a huge amount of failed reagents as well.

If Siemens DX is trying to cut cost then this is the place it should be done. A very expensive facility which, at one time, held over 800-900 people on rotating shifts now has less than 200.
What is that all about?
Just a very silly way to do business."

You should replace MR and run Siemens DX to the right way!!!