You forgot to add the word 'lonely'.

I am.

Retired, now I do what ever I damn well please.

Life Technologies is hiring.

For me i am already okay with my career now. everything was set so good.
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I opened an Asian spa in Manhatten. I test all the Ladies myself.

I am getting Rich!! And getting lots of.... All for hiring young women.

Decided in grad school that bench life was not for me (either as an academic or industry postdoc/researcher) so I got into intellectual property and work as a biotech/pharma/med device/diagnostics patent agent, first in a law firm and now in an in-house legal dept of large pharmaceutical company. It can be boring at times, but the money is great and I get to use my scientific training without the exposure to toxins and radiation. If I work efficiently the job can have pretty regular hours. I've learned a lot about various fields that I would never have bothered learning about had I remained at the bench. In research, you know a lot about a little, in IP you learn a little about a lot.

Why, Sir Moderator do you remove threads with gallows humor and sarcasm? My thread about becoming a carpenter rather than inventing 'cures' for diabesity was deleted. You'd like some civility here? Well there is nothing civil about pharma or medical devices. Guess this post will be here for an hour or so.

I started off in Molecular Micro Research. I moved into Technical support and Sales. Meanwhile my Dad sold our family farm and emigrated. I missed it so much, I moved into the dairy sector, setting up lab services etc. With the aspiration to work for a major semen company (never happened in the end).

Now I rear calves for veal and work as a livestock contractor. Went full circle. I am working for myself, which is really hard (generating business etc) but I can earn more and enjoy life! I guess my 'push' was the fact that I absoltely hated my previous job and was prepared to do anything as long as I could cover the bills. Combine that with some savings from saved commissions from my sales role and it helped me along.

It's not that we're inept at changing careers but that by the time we realize we need to do something else for a living, it's too late. Years ago, I worked with a female PhD biochemist in her 50's who spent her entire career in immunoassay development. She wanted to update her skills and get into biotech so she took 2 years off to get a MS in biotechnology. Another year went by when no one would offer her a job so she wound up returning to our company doing exactly the same thing she was before. It's hard enough for a 50+ year old to find a job in their own field. Virtually impossible in a field you have no hands on experience in.

I completely agree with the above comments. I know many PhDs with 50+ age who could not find job for 2-3 years after getting laid-off.
It is very difficult to understand why companies do not want to hire an experienced person who is willing to work at lower pay and does a better work.

Medical marijuana and the accompanying functional glassware.

It's not that we're inept at changing careers but that by the time we realize we need to do something else for a living, it's too late. Years ago, I worked with a female PhD biochemist in her 50's who spent her entire career in immunoassay development. She wanted to update her skills and get into biotech so she took 2 years off to get a MS in biotechnology. Another year went by when no one would offer her a job so she wound up returning to our company doing exactly the same thing she was before. It's hard enough for a 50+ year old to find a job in their own field. Virtually impossible in a field you have no hands on experience in.

Used to work in Diagnostics but then we got bought by Siemens so instead of serving customers I now serve the whims of crazy management. Life as a Borg drone aint so bad.

15 years in Pfizer, now professor at one of the Ivy League universities. Reason to change: can't take orders from stupid people any more.

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Ahh, Li Jun. Hello. Knew you'd always be a woman to watch.

I hated science and i had no interest in healthcare. I was technically poor and socially inept. I finally accepted that i was only interested in lining my own pockets by advancing my career through fooling others to accept false measures of productivity. For that reason, I'm now a Director at Novartis in Cambridge.

fluffer, I get more job satisfaction. :)

Was working doing clinical trials and ghost-wrting for an incompetent VP of R&D in pharma for a company that later became Pfizer (think Lipitor). I was bored so I applied to law school on the last possible day and went to the night program. I did the jabba walk for 4 years where I paid the semester tuition, put in for employee tuition reimbursement, and then submitted my grades to get my tuition and book costs refunded. Each semester, the aforemention idiot VP would demand I drop out of law school and he would promote me (yeah, right). I said to promote me first and then I wouldn't pay the next semester's tuition.

In my 2nd semester 3rd year of this, I got transferred (same grade level) to a licensing/technology/business development function. I also took FDA law course at the law school taught by an adjunct prof who was head of FDA law for WL. Then it got interesting. The FDA lawyer requested I transfer into the legal dept. The idiot VP blocked the transfer and said I had to first finish law school, and pass the bar exam. I applied to law firms through the law school recruiting office.

I got 5 job offers in NYC to start about 10 months later (after finishing law school and taking NY Bar). WL had its first down-sizing and offered voluntary severance packages. It also eliminated employee tuition reimbursement for law school (I was the only one using it). I had accepted one job offer with the top IP firm in the country.

I believe I was the first in WL history to accept voluntary severance. I call the NY firm and explained the situation and asked to start 9 months early. Done with a phone call. I took a week off, collected severance, and started as a lawyer with a 50% pay hike.

Thanks Pfizer for paying the tuition. I sued you in a patent lawsuit years later.

"Former FSE now working in-house for major hospital chain. One that appreciates the value that quality service provides. Every time I fix things,which is about 97% of the time, I save the hospital at least a $2000 call."

Been there, done that. Your major hospital chain may appreciate you today but in a few years when the skills you acquired as an FSE become outdated your hospital chain won't be so appreciative. They won't spend the $$$ to train you on new products and you will suddenly become obsolete.

Former FSE now working in-house for major hospital chain. One that appreciates the value that quality service provides. Every time I fix things,which is about 97% of the time, I save the hospital at least a $2000 call. No more politics about having to work 10-12 hour days, running a service businees by spreadsheets, to contribute to sale's bottom line. Skills are now apprecated as assets, rather than my paycheck being looked upon as a liability.

Was culled from OCD by Cathie-the-Terminator just weeks after telling us in R&D we were far to valuable to lose. Hah! Then spent the happiest 5 years of my working life in Cancer Research (at half my previous salary, but no matter), before retiring.
What amazes me is that Vitros ECi is still being manufactured and presumably sold, 12 years on.

Urinal screen sales and service

I lost my job at Pfizer five years ago. I was an R6 there but I have not worked full-time since I was laid off. It appears that, even back then, there was no market for useless people who are full of corporate crap and have forgotten any science they might have once known. It's gonna be more crowded soon...

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Despite what you might have heard, it's not a dying business !!!

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Here's a little message for the original poster who wrote : " It seems that Scientists are the most inept at discovering new careers ... "

Mais qu'elle surprise !!!

Let's face it ... they're not exactly too adept at discovering new medicines / medicinal products either are they ???
Ha ha ha ha ha ... you've gotta laugh, ain't ya !?!

After 10 years as an MS scientist, I got an MBA. Now work for a nearly top-tier management consulting company, restructuring pharma and generally causing these layoffs. It's much more stable over here, and I can live with myself because I remember how unproductive we all were as scientists at the large pharma companies I worked for. And the pay is about double and I get a bonus, which was didn't happen as an R4. It's a growth industry and we're hiring!

After being in the industry (various instrument makers and biotech) for over 10 years, decided to get back to academics in the area of interest.

Lower salary but happiest ever. Not easy after being disconnected from research but still better than the rat politics in the industry.

True story. I would recommend this for some people.

I was fired three times and I fired three times. Then I decided to become a CEO of a pharma company so I cannot be fired by a middle manager. But the investors fired me. But during my tenure my company developed Viagra. Now I use it.

Quit after 15 years in Biotech with a PHD. Now I'm running a medical marijuana dispensary in California, not far too from my old job.

Worked as a scientist for 5 years in ancillary market to pharma, didn't like what I saw, got an MBA (Ivy). Now I work in marketing for a favorite target on this board for 2x the salary, have options when I decide to leave (which is very soon).

If you were not there when your previous collegues were laid off and subsequently reinvented their careers without your help, why should they help you now?

Little lonely on this side of the redudancy line isn't it?

I made a huge career change! After finishing my PhD in biology, I worked at Amgen for 12 years. After 12 years of playing with mouse testicules, I decided it was time to do something better. I got my teaching certificate and started teaching as a middle school science teacher. I took a huge pay cut but I was finally happy! I no longer had to play with mouse testicules. After teaching for two years, I became bored. I decided to go back into industry and took a job with Pfizer. After several years of hard work, I was let go. But, I landed back on my feet. I am now a manager at Wendy's Old Fashioned Hamburgers. Do you want fries with that?