Well if your post is an example of your technical writer skills no wonder you've been sacked.
I read it 3 times and it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

Don't forget folks, Pfizer corporate procedure 117 - sends all that research to lovely, filthy India and all that manufacturing to dog-awful, filthy China. And both perm and contract U.S. and UK and EU jobs. Have you been to these nations? I have. So SHUT UP.

A project / technical writer job for informatics and discover IT projects at Pfizer St. Louis (I was at Maryville Centre) through, say, dog awful Kforce cost Pfizer say, 45-60$ an hour on 1099-misc (check box 7 for non-employee compensation), with the writer making up to 37$ or so an hour. InfoSys or Satyam in Chennai, India costs Pfizer say 40$ an hour and less. What a savings with technically illiterate India "freshies", with nine credit hours of training doing my job. Pfizer AtS initiative. Beh.

Pfizer is sucking up all the U.S. Corporate Welfare it can vis-à-vis Section 530 of the 1978 Tax Act and the various free trade agreements; specifically the Free China Trade agreement.

We can thank Wall Street owned Washing-greed, DC. All of that outsourcing is for profits and shareholder value. We pay the same for that blue pill at retail, however. Pfizer still showers Nancy Pelosi and the rest of Washing-greed, DC with Viagra, too.

America the Degenerate. The UK and the EU have scaled back corporate entitlements that cause massive job loss as is happening here in the good ol' USA. The average Hindu Indian in Chennai or Bangalore or Mumbai knows exactly how U.S. corporate welfare works, the legislation, the forms, and more.

The large India outsourcing companies in India, InfoSys and Satyam, are gaining capability every single damned day. They are now "educating" underclass people to perform my technical writer job thanks to what is left of the British education system teaching them English from a young age. China has learned, also. The Communist Chinese government has established giant training centres in some cities to train prospective candidates in engineering, analysis, project management, and much, much, more using all that trillions of value dumped in China by the U.S.

The average U.S. citizen is too stupid, too lazy, too fat, and too uncaring to halt the hemorrhaging of generations of U.S. to India and China - two very undeserving nations that want your U.S. and EU lifestyle. Obama said specifically while campaigning, "I'll stop rewarding companies that send jobs overseas." Section 530 remains in full force and enjoys a safe harbor provision as the Section 530 legislation does not clearly distinguish between a permanent employee and contract labour.

America the Degenerate. Creating problems for itself to satisfy short-term greed. That short-term approach creates problems for the rest for the developed world.

"It is no secret that those AA managers running the former EMS are being used to eliminate jobs by trumping up performance issues on Groton employees. When the ranks are culled by the numbers desired, these managers will be let go. They are of limited usefulness."

WTF are you talking about most of the managers of former EMS are former EMS. But ya when they're done they'll go too. Look who they are.

They stacked Groton with loads of those harboring bad blood and put them in charge. Talk about a mess.

More specifically, the group of retards running the former EMS.

Open slots in Groton were preferentially offered to AA people first before anybody else had a shot at them. In this case, however, we're talking about people who are specifically targeted for AtS. Everyone who gets targeted knows damn well that the reasons go beyond being simply redundant, so IF they are one of the lucky few who are retained, they have to be completely ignorant not to know that they will be entering their new position with a HUGE target painted on their backs.

It is no secret that those AA managers running the former EMS are being used to eliminate jobs by trumping up performance issues on Groton employees. When the ranks are culled by the numbers desired, these managers will be let go. They are of limited usefulness.

I just called the Chesterfield campus, telling them that I am hiring at Washington University and asking them simply to let human resources know that I am on the line and ask them if they would like to speak with me. They refused even to call up to HR to let them what my business was.

Your company truly loves you.

"You're giving management too much credit. They stacked Groton with loads of those harboring bad blood and put them in charge. Talk about a mess."

Yes, but in the case of AA we are talking about an entire site closure where everyone was on the block unless the Grotonites could convince them to move. Open slots in Groton were preferentially offered to AA people first before anybody else had a shot at them. In this case, however, we're talking about people who are specifically targeted for AtS. Everyone who get targeted know damn well that the reasons go beyond being simply redundant, so IF they are one of the lucky few who are retained, they have to be completely ignorant not to know that they will be entering their new position with a HUGE target painted on their backs.

"Management knows you'll harbor bad blood and they don't want that. They'd rather hire fresh from outside."

You're giving management too much credit. They stacked Groton with loads of those harboring bad blood and put them in charge. Talk about a mess.

"hmmm, really??I've seen several of jobs posted in BTxPharmSci and it looks like the new RR org has tons of STL folks in there! So what, they will be moving??"

If history repeats itself, and it will, then those jobs are for show and NOT for the displaced ATS'd. Oh sure, they may rehire 0.1% of you just to "prove" they didn't discriminate but the rest of you better start packing now. No matter how good you are, or think you are, Management knows you'll harbor bad blood and they don't want that. They'd rather hire fresh from outside.

Nobody knows what is going on.

oh and BTW, we feel your pain here in Pearl river too, same deal.

"A major wave of people will be leaving STL next week. It is very sad to see and to think about losing all the talent makes one sick to their stomach. In addition, no jobs to be had in STL for scientists and most will end up leaving the area."

hmmm, really??I've seen several of jobs posted in BTxPharmSci and it looks like the new RR org has tons of STL folks in there! So what, they will be moving??

A major wave of people will be leaving STL next week. It is very sad to see and to think about losing all the talent makes one sick to their stomach. In addition, no jobs to be had in STL for scientists and most will end up leaving the area.

"the question is when will they start moving people and projects east to Andover/cambridge and Pearl River? heard some rumors that say sometime in the summer of 2010 with some managers and others earlier to start setting up shop, when there will be lots of space in Pearl, several hundred people will have exited there by then."

Deal with Monsanto is to have the Pfizer footprint to the minimum by early/mid-April.. people moves (if any?) to other sites will have to be before the Summer.

"Rumor is waves will start at STL soon. Good Luck for the future ex Pizerites"

This is no rumor, it is a fact. I wish all the affected the best, I wish I could say the same for the unaffected in St. Louis.

Thursday AM, Snowing in STL. Any estimates of how many people will show up for work today. 30%???

Wow! It sure took you a long time to reply. Does your mommy put you to bed early?

THAT'S NO WAY TO SPEAK TO YOUR BOSS.

What's the mater little one? Kindler Claus bring you a lump of coal and a Job Loss Notice for Christmas?

Who is this prepubescent retart that uses the moniker of "Jeffie-Clown Shoes-Kindler"?

Get a life, A**hole!

January is hereby dubbed "Musical Chairs Month"

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Signed,

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PS- LOVE my new SHOES! Thanks all!

Rumor is waves will start at STL soon. Good Luck for the future ex Pizerites.

"the question is when will they start moving people and projects east to Andover/cambridge and Pearl River? heard some rumors that say sometime in the summer of 2010 with some managers and others earlier to start setting up shop, when there will be lots of space in Pearl, several hundred people will have exited there by then."

so what is RR saying about this? there has to be some buzz on this, there were once alot of vocal people posting on this...its gone dark...???? what gives

Sure, they fired all those people and now they're going to pay to move you there.

I want some of what you're drinking.

No formal announcements yet for the inflammation organizational structure. Wonder when that will become known.

No way, St. Louis will survive and be a leader in Pfizer. They have and always have had the best parking lots and flower pots. Now someone hand me my crack pipe.

"STL will last for 3 years. It has strategic assets (pilot plants) which are needed, hard to replace, and Monsanto does not need. After 3-5 years when these plants can be replaced STL will be gone from Pfizer. However, I look for surgical cuts, less than 20 people to take place in the next few years and they will be under the radar. No real press involved.
Good luck to all."

the question is when will they start moving people and projects east to Andover/cambridge and Pearl River? heard some rumors that say sometime in the summer of 2010 with some managers and others earlier to start setting up shop, when there will be lots of space in Pearl, several hundred people will have exited there by then.

""MD guarantees everyone will have a job for at least 10 years."

Ok, yeah right, he can't even make that promise to himself."

Even if he doesn't make it, his severance will cover him for more than 10 years, you can bet on that.

STL will last for 3 years. It has strategic assets (pilot plants) which are needed, hard to replace, and Monsanto does not need. After 3-5 years when these plants can be replaced STL will be gone from Pfizer. However, I look for surgical cuts, less than 20 people to take place in the next few years and they will be under the radar. No real press involved.
Good luck to all.

I bet the guy in the UK placing bets on Tiger would give good odds on PFE St. Louis lasting less than 3 years.

Maybe someone should ask him?

StL will be lucky to make it 3 years. I haven't talked to anyone that believes it will last through the 5 year lease, much less the extension period.

"MD guarantees everyone will have a job for at least 10 years."

Ok, yeah right, he can't even make that promise to himself.

"So sorry to hear about what happened."
Yeah right.

How are things in the chemistry department there? I heard there were some PFE interviewers on campus. Anyone knows of offers and how many? How about other organizations, any interest in St Louis people thus far. So sorry to hear about what happened.

MD guarantees everyone will have a job for at least 10 years.

so i haven't heard much from STL Bio PharmSci here. What happens to to you guys?? 10 year lease from monsanto, but what are the rumors round there?? Is MD gonna keep you there for a while? has anybody been offered relo back east(andove/Cambridge/Pearl River) ???

"It will be interesting to see everyone as equals at the management company"

What did you mean???

In 4 to 6 weeks over half of Pfizer STL will be done. It will be interesting to see everyone as equals at the management company. What will really interesting will be to see who ends us being "leaders" during the transition period when people are trying to find jobs. This next 8 weeks will be really interesting to see if Pfizer chose the right leaders from the past.

Look to your left
Your coworker seems bereft
Look to your right
That person is ready to fight

Look overhead
It's JK flying out on the corporate jet
He's the only one leaving STL today
Who's still happy, on that you can bet.

Dr Doom

I saw that jet yesterday and wondered who was on it. Thanks for filling us in. Doom, if you ever come out of the closet, let me buy you a drink.

Good try, but you are NOT Dr Doom. Dr Doom is concise and precise. This last poem was neither. Plus, this last poem wasn't filled with nuggets of insider info like those of Dr Doom.

Listen to the corporate spin,
It makes a hard to see the target,
What is the final lynchpin?
Who is the greatest culprit?
Some say the games sum is zero.
So pick up your feet and run,
Like a charging hero.
Because you won’t be chosen,
Do not waste time
On the oft sublime
Take pen in hand
Make your resume grand.
It is true St. Louis is blameless
But it won’t prevent the fracas.
So fill out your pamphlet,
With a smile on your face.
Or your severance you’ll forfeit,
And leave in disgrace

Dr Doom just summarized in a few words what I've been trying to say in many paragraphs. He's unbelievable.

Love ya' Doom.

Look to your left
Your coworker seems bereft
Look to your right
That person is ready to fight

Look overhead
It's JK flying out on the corporate jet
He's the only one leaving STL today
Who's still happy, on that you can bet.

Dr Doom

"PR please spare me, too expensive, crowded and way to many "me" scientist, not about the science but all about the scientist. Besides PR does not even know the meaning of tech transfer... oh sorry we forgot to tell you that important part of process but I suppose the 6 months you wasted was not totally wasted. Probably just PR's piss poor arrogant culture."

Bad-mouthing another site will not save your f##king job. The decision has alreday been made.

PR please spare me, too expensive, crowded and way to many "me" scientist, not about the science but all about the scientist. Besides PR does not even know the meaning of tech transfer... oh sorry we forgot to tell you that important part of process but I suppose the 6 months you wasted was not totally wasted. Probably just PR's piss poor arrogant culture.

"rumors in pearl river is that they are moving lots of STL functions to pearl soon? "

CONFIRMED.

well why dont they announce a STL complete exit, just like they did for wyeth small moleules?? BAM, 600 people in a single snap!, gone within the next 12-18 months, they could and should do the same for STL, why didnt they?? cause its their own?? rumors in pearl river is that they are moving lots of STL functions to pearl soon? andover/cambridge is too crowded and they are an exact duplicate of STL

"IS anyone really sure of decisions for St. Louis??"

Why are you still in denial? Just check all the videos on Pfizerworld. Do you need MD to tell you in person what he meant?

IS anyone really sure of decisions for St. Louis?? Is there even going to be a critical mass to go forward or will it just die from lack of resources?

St.L was once a major site going forwar. I would not expect anything to be very long term with Pfizer.

PR will be a major site forward (announced already). If offered to relocate, you should take it.