"Looks like probably waiting on people to reply to job offers may be holding things up."

Typically the "Buyer" company will offer positions to those employees from the "Bought Out" company that it desires to retain. It is unlikely that even 35% of people from other Wyeth sites offered positions will relocate to Groton.

Previous Pfizer Warner Lambert merger in a good economic climate with attractive relocation packages did not even yield better than 70% Ann Arbor transfers to Groton.

"waiting on people to reply to job offers may be holding things up."
That number is so small it shouldn't affect the big picture. 30 at most out of 1800, that's nothing.

How about if you pissed off your managers brown nose pet

10 - 20 % reductions based on skills and whether or not you pissed a manager almighty off

Maybe we will find out who is in or out of IG leadership team next week. In the next week or so after we find out the fate of the rest. Looking to see how much management will be effected compared to grunts. Looks like probably waiting on people to reply to job offers may be holding things up.

Hey Groton folks, what's the latest PharmSci stuff?

"If you can't master brown nosing, you have no future"

This is so true at PFE, as you can see from many of the postings. Is is just me, or is this the bullet train to disaster. If all the managers are brown nosed (which they most definitely are) and they reward this behavior in their direct reports, then all you really have are people telling each other how great they are and whatever management wants to hear regardless of truth. As a manager, I want to hear the truth (especially if I am messing up) so I can do what is best for my group and our bottom line and most definitely WHAT IS BEST FOR MY COMPANY, not just me. Maybe I am too "big picture." I guess I naively thought that science was the search for truth.

GPM is the only factor. If you can't master brown nosing, you have no future.

UK - 10-15% job cuts, like skill sets across departments in the same pool (analytical, formulation/process). 30 day consultation started March 2nd. Redundant by end of month. 2007 + 2008 GPM most relevant scores, 2009 taken into consideration. No auto selection / de-selection based on GPM only.

Yes -please get rid of "people managers". Basically worthless idiots who can't manage you because they have no clue anymore about what you do!

Replace People Managers with science focused Managers and less of them. Bring back the real pay for performance which applies all the way to the top. Get rid of all dumb CI crap and focus on science and make sure all the workers have all the tools needed to perform all tasks to get the products to market. Most important make some correct decisions for a change and not keep reinventing the wheel.

"Mmmm.....This is the kind of pathetic in-fighting that will cause Pfshizer to self-destruct.

This MatSci BS better take a severe beating, its such a HUGE waste of shareholder money and time, its all smoke and mirrors, what value do they really add? We'll see if they get it right this time, could be worse folks, you could be in Wyeth PR!"

Ha, just read these boards , infighting seems to be a core value, it actually sucks big time, but how do you stop it??

Everyone had meetings and we were told wait till April for status of jobs. Small amount of people effected today however. UK knows more than us is what we were told.

Mmmm.....This is the kind of pathetic in-fighting that will cause Pfshizer to self-destruct.

This MatSci BS better take a severe beating, its such a HUGE waste of shareholder money and time, its all smoke and mirrors, what value do they really add? We'll see if they get it right this time, could be worse folks, you could be in Wyeth PR!

Assume folks in Groton got their news today - or was it UK only?

Looks like next week is real announcement times for AD pharm sci line.

The problem for AC is that essentially any monkey fresh from school can do their job. It's really a technician level job, so expect lots of cuts and people from the REAL analytical science groups to have to step up and do some sample churning....

Your Joking, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AC Managers are the best in the business. LH is a great leader. ARD should be so lucky.

This MatSci BS better take a severe beating, its such a HUGE waste of shareholder money and time, its all smoke and mirrors, what value do they really add? We'll see if they get it right this time, could be worse folks, you could be in Wyeth PR!

""Groton layoffs are next week."
really ? across the board? how many are they going to take from Pearl River?"

some already got offers, my GUESS, is about 30 total. thats the buzz around here, not many even want to go if offered, to risky and dont want to leave the NYC area.

"Groton layoffs are next week."
really ? across the board? how many are they going to take from Pearl River?

Hey Groton Pharm Sci folks, how is the new head of the new LifeCyle group? Is he a good guy to work for? Thanks for any insight.

M grades seem to be scurrying around a lot more recently so guess the time is nigh.

"Heard that analytical control will be cut 50% and LH is out."

what about formulations?, PcoE, PE, MSOP??

""If you have not got the RR offer and nod, get the CV ouut there because you are not going forward with Pfizer."

Where is this happening? St. Louis? North Carolina?"

The note sent out last week said NC folks were given offers to relo to Pearl River, awaiting the numbers to accept. Between now and end of March should be more clear. Although we all know these time lines are RARELY met. Pretty quite from STL, I guess its status quo there for now???

I can't wait to see the outcome of the layoffs to see what rumours were correct. I hope all the lower levels aren't the ones hit hard again. Time to see some real fat removed.

I'm with you - there are plenty of managers in AC that are nothing but fat and I'm waiting to see if the new leadership has figured it out.

I can't wait to see the outcome of the layoffs to see what rumours were correct. I hope all the lower levels aren't the ones hit hard again. Time to see some real fat removed.

Heard that analytical control will be cut 50% and LH is out.

Groton layoffs are next week.

"If you have not got the RR offer and nod, get the CV ouut there because you are not going forward with Pfizer."

Where is this happening? St. Louis? North Carolina?

Initials of the Head of AC

If you have not got the RR offer and nod, get the CV ouut there because you are not going forward with Pfizer.

what is LH?

New org is no more AC function only LH moving forward other managers are being cut. Some AC R1-R3s moving forward, rest cut.

"Big announcement made today." = new jobs will be posted starting March 1st.

Org structure is supposed to be finalized by end of Feb. Any news?

means nothing, doesn't even make sense, there was no announcement and there won't be for several weeks.

what is that supposed to mean

Big announcement made today. If you didn't hear about it, you are out.

"50%? I thought it was only 10"

Do you not understand what consolidation means? ARD will cut AC by 50% maybe more.

50%? I thought it was only 10

Analytical Control is going to be cut 50% for consolidation into ARD announcements in 2 weeks get your resume ready AC its cutting time!

ba ha ha ha ha ha aha ha! thats a good one!! yeah right. this comment belongs with the "We want to integrate the best of the best from wyeth"! look how thats turned out..

"My sources say management will get a big cut this time around"

My sources say management will get a big cut this time around.

As one of us at Pfizer used to often say... I am completely underwhelmed.

AD "everyone will know their personal situation by end of March"

Most recent announcements suggest mid April

Partially meets expectations!

Reviews are being given out. It's just the wait and see time for finding out our new way of doing things or whether we still have a job. We will see if management will be affected this time.

Cracks me up still no announcements. WTF has AD been doing for 12 months?

Now end-March (maybe mid-April) until the new amazing PTx Pharm Sci org announced, though I guess this might happen at different rates for different departments.