Today SK was fired from the job. The only one who knew how to get things done was let go. Great!
Tarrytown's "big" days have been over for years!
Many I work with here are just waiting for retirement
or a package worth their while to leave.
Truth is I don't blame them. My immediate Supervisor
has already received job offers from competitors.
Place lacks any incentive for sticking around.
Llanberis finally got a new full time Site Head. As with EF, we were told he'll also be in charge of LA as well.
The poor guy will have his hands full with backorder and reagent issues.
We've slowed down considerably at Tarrytown but we mostly concentrate on Centaur projects. We still have a small group dedicated to Immulite problems. Lost track on how many kits they already removed from the platforms menu.
Getting a little scary out there.
VP's have contracts. If terminated then they are paid on the remaining time left on the contract.
In general, a person who is fired gets the standard package. There may be some extras at the VP level, but a million sounds a bit high. If the person leaves by mutual consent, a special package is sometimes worked out ahead of time and in that situation a million would not be out of the question. So the bottom line is: was this mutual consent or a firing? And when the person is at a high level, he is often escorted out rapidly within an hour of signing the final documents.
you all don't know what you are talking about
The amount of severance is directly proportional to the amount of dirt the individual has on the company. Severance is hush-money to prevent the individual from suing the company.
How much does a VP get as a severance package
I don't think this could be true. He must have been offered the standard severance package a VP is eligible for and this could not even come close to what you are talking about.
This is an interesting thread. From what I heard SK got over a million dollars as the severance package.
There is not a lot of talent in Tarrytown at least not in R&D. Whatever talent was there left during the Bayer period as R&D was 'punished' for the failure of Advia IMS. CM was brought in to decimate the engineering department. Most of the talented chemists had been laid off or retired as well. Software was in a state of chaos after the IMS debacle. Whatever R&D talent that had made Tarrytown the powerhouse it once was, was long gone. There was very little science going on and even less creativity. The rigid program of policies, procedures, committees, rules, regulations, and reviews of R&D work by technically incompetent people was all that was left. The big Tarrytown product of today is Centaur, and Centaur was not developed in Tarrytown. Centaur was bought by Bayer and had its roots in the old Corning Diagnostics that came to Bayer via Chiron. Centaur was a good product for its day, and you will notice that the subsequent upgrades that came out of Tarrytown were not nearly as successful.
Maybe Siemens has some secret weapons in R&D elsewhere, but there simply is not enough critical mass in Tarrytown today to do very much at all in the way of new products.
CM will lead this organization over the cliff
Let's face it people. No site TTN, FLN,GLW has delivered anything in last 7 years. There is a lot of talent in all these sites but no direction. SK was forcing the TTN organization to be more disciplined with a slight chance of delivering products. SK had made XPR project deliver a good reliable product. This organization needs person like SK who can channel the talent to deliver reliable products. He may have gone too far in controlling everything that goes on in the organization. But let's be fair. There is no one else who can do what SK did in the Siemens environment.
No wonder CM was nick named Wacko-M....
CM's function is not to run an engineering department. His function is to pare it down to the bare bones or completely eliminate it.
Now put on your businessman's hat for a minute. You have multiple sites with R&D capability. You may even be creating a new one outside of the US (and Germany). You look at the recent accomplishments of the various R&D departments you already have. What new products have they created? Were development costs reasonable and products released more or less on time? Were the new products successful? Can you afford to maintain multiple sites including ones that aren't terribly productive and almost certainly no longer have the critical mass to take on any big project?
Once you go through the above exercise, you may better understand CM's function and why he will continue to have the backing of DX management. It's not what people in Tarrytown want to hear or believe, but think about it.
He will really screw it up if he fires SK direct reports as well. CM has no clue how to run an engineering group. God save us!
It is possible that he may get rid of his direct reports as well but that will be taking it too far. But then again anything is possible.
From what I heard CM is going to remove SK's direct reports as well.ME EE SW SE
You want to talk about malignant individuals, look at Tim A..What a buffoon! Couldn't sell worth a lick, but parlayed his way into his present position via Rich D.. Too bad he doesn't have the ability to leave too. He'll take advantage of the 'peter principle' as long as he can.
Gen-a-mess was a DS project. That should say it all. He was always too busy backstabbing his colleagues to ever have completed a successful project. All he did was leave a trail of damaged careers and failed products. Whatever his faults, SK was an amateur compared to DS.
You are an idiot. Software caused Gen failure? If you love those processes, you should love CF.I think you are one of those who was fired for his incompetency.
If this is the same SK who headed the software department at one time, then he should have never been promoted to a position where he could inflict more damage on an organization. He never instilled a disciplined software process. A couple of time software engineers could not recall which version was running the development systems. They could not properly estimate instrument network usage, and parts collided. It was one of the dominoes that caused Gen-a-mess to collapse. I certainly hope CM terminates CF, who decided not to address the Gen-a-Mess network problem because it wasn't on the schedule. And she also delivered prototypes to the methods group knowing full well they had not passed simple asipiration/ dispensing calibration tests. At least RV is still there. He uns a tight ship, and plays well with others.
SK is already being missed. CM will put some idiot in charge just like his recent hires.
SK will be missed badly. There are a few people who are celebrating but those are the people who have no clue and SK knew how to detect their BS. If only he had worked on his controlling and confrontational style, he would have been in CM's role right now. If I have to pick between SK and CM, I will pick SK any time.
Good Luck to SK.
funny, where were all you SK lovers all these years, you never defended him!!!!!!!
You miss the entire point of CM's existence. His role is not to accomplish things or to learn the business. He is simply an hatchet man. His sole role is to trim staff and get rid of 'undesireables'. He is not there to build. Once he has cleared house (for the second time in Tarrytown) he will simply move on to the next company that needs his unique services.
Call CM, the roto-rooter man ....
He'll get your staff right down to plan.
In a truly rational organization, CM would not be in R&D; he would be part of the maintenance or housekeeping crew along with other janitors, bathroom cleanup people, and those who empty the office trash. CM: el director de la recolección de basura.
I agree. The real issue today is CM and not SK. He is a clueless guy. I have never really wished anyone bad. His act of firing SK will hurt us all including Trinidad.CM will realize with time the coseqnuences of his decision and this will lead to his eventual downfall. Some people never learn. Thanks SK for your relentless efforts in the past few years including the UIW vision. I am sure you will continue to do great things.
Why only the haters? How about the supporters listing the specific projects and products that were completed AND are now making money for Siemens.
How about just moving on. These things happen all the time, especially when someone like CM is around. CM, too, will be gone after a while. He is basically like the Roto-Rooter man; companies call him in to clean up the unwanted mess, and then have him move on to his next 'client'. No real used crying of spilled milk or ex-employees. There were far better who left Tarrytow unwillingly, and there were far worse.
I invite all the former SK haters to now come forward and speak. This is your moment!
I remember when SK took over,GEO was in shambles. There was no guidance,no direction,no leadership. He got tings done. He is the only one who knew exactly what he was doing. He is a brilliant man. He did have his imperfections. Rather than helping and coaching him,getting him out was an easy option that CM took. It is sad. There will be chaos for a long long time.
I have read all the comments here. While SK was not a great leader but he did make TTN GEO organization feel they can deliver the products. You can't blame SK for sales and integration. The only flaw he had was he was a control freak. If you compare him with other so called GEO heads, he is far ahead of them.While most people are happy to see SK gone, it will be a different story a year from now when everything would be late and there won't be SK to blame.
It is either the 'whole picture' or 'holistic'. As for the state of affairs at Siemens when SK took over compared with today, it is really difficult to discern the difference. No significant new products, no breakthrough in sales, consolidation stilly woefully behind any reasonable schedule, etc. Clearly not SK's fault, but, at the same time, the overall Siemens effort is not putting any fear into its competitors minds. Siemens still looks like an organization that is stumbling and bumbling through a maze that it does not understand.
Guys, let us take a moment to evaluate the wholistic picture. I remember SK assuming responsibility for this job about five years back in a hugely challenging time in the mergers journey. The organization had lost its' way. Armed with his skills, knowledge and a steady hand he lead us through a period where we delivered several projects and he built confidence. Everyone has their imperfections and he was not perfect either but I must admit he was very effective. It must be difficult time for him at the moment. Let us give him a break and wish him all the best.
SK was out of control bully. The whole department was reeked of fear.Thank God he is gone
Funny all the love SK gets now. Where were you people when everyone was dumping on him for years. No one said a positive word then.
Bringing discipline to R&D is one thing. Turning out profitable products is quite another. Having processes that stand up to FDA scrutiny is a third. And forming a cohesive, motivated team is a fourth. Being successful at the first is somewhat meaningless if you fail in the other three areas. And if you do anything to get on CM's bad side, that's big trouble. CM's forte is getting rid of people and, you must admit, that's he's damned good at it.
SK had brought brought discipline to the organization. He was very tough though and I understand why people hated him. He did not accept bullshit from anyone. But at the end he became victim of his own success. CM's other managers are not great. CM was threatened by SK.
just read all the posts over the years complaing about SK, they have been constant
Will CM replace SK? If so, you should worry a lot. CM's sole area of expertise seems to be in his creative ways of reducing head count and punishing the guilty for upper management failures.
Not a good sign for Siemens. Expect chaos and apathy to reign.
I know he was most hated. However, he was also the most effective. I am not fan of SK but I worry about who will replace him?
Ummmmmmmmm.... you people want to get together on this one? And while you're at it, I was under the impression that nothing was getting done in Tarrytown. Do we need to call a meeting to sort this all out?
are you kidding me? the most hated man in Tarrytown,ding dong the warlock is dead!
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