This comment is obviously a competitor of S3 (not to be confused with Scientist Solutions SSE). if our shows a so poor quality then why do we have 15 or more vendors at our events as opposed to 5 or 6 that SSE typically has. Why do some of the biggest and most prominent life science tool companies continue to support us? This post is sour grapes from someone losing their market because of the product they provide.

Cal

Has anyone considered exhibiting at Pittcon? Over 80% of Pittcon attendees are decision makers for instrumentation, lab equipment, consumables and services.

http://pittcon.org/exhibitor/exhibiting-at-pittcon/

if you like greasy pizza, sugared soda and you're ready for below the lowest of expectations - then by all means go to the "low cost" and "even lower quality" event provider S3 - sucks 3 x

S3, aka "Scientist Solutions" are the worst. I will no longer authorize burning our company's cash on this group. However, Bioshows consistently performs. They do the prep before the shows to ensure a qualified turnout. S3 has never worked for us...and never will in the future.

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If you are tired of overpaying and poor quality shows give S3 a try. Ask around as we do a good job. Focus primarily on the middle of the country (TX, LA, MS, OK, OH, IL, KS, MO, NE, etc.) All shows are a flat fee and we don't nickel and dime you to hand out bags and pens.
www.scientificsalessolutions.com.

I also am from Chicago, the Windy Mistake on the Lake. I used to have to call a bunch of customers and wade through cold leads. Not any more. With SSE, every lead is qualified, and I know well in advance the type of bread, condiments, meats and cheeses the customers want on their sandwiches. No other biotechnology show gives me a better contract for my Subway franchise.

Busty didn't have the proper credentials in food sservice. We all knew he could never last in the hospitality industry. I didn't have time to train him.

HA! So glad to read these comments. As much as I love doing shows, these guys are a complete waste of time and money.

They're all a bunch of clowns as far as I am concerned. Ever since I heard Scientists Solutions screws its contractors, we will have nothing to do with them, or for that matter, anyone else due to similar poor performance. We just set up our own shows which is much cheaper and more productive.

You're confused. The SouthCA dude was some boob whose name rhymed with "BUSTY".
He left the mayonnaise out all night and a lot of people at the UCLA show got food poisoning.
They had to let him go. He didn't have his act together.

This thread is pretty amusing! Especially from a vendor's perspective.

So what I heard is that the guy that was running SSE shows in the southwest region got shit-canned. Apparently, he didn't show up to set up a scheduled event, leaving the vendors in a lurch. So I think he is the one with an axe to grind.

So, you're suggesting that SSE is merely a front group, diverting money to Iran to support their gay nuclear ambitions?
That figures.

"Scientist Solutions Evnts has probably never encouraged the over-abuse of LSD, methamphetermine, or mescaline before or during a compnay-sponsored vendor show." - They encourage moderation do they?

Anyone remember the two flaming gay guys from Iran who ran the northeast. They couldn't wait to make it to the hotel. One was a skimpy rabbit face dominator and the other probably loved a good beating (he actually was still a student and just pubed)

I am not a vendor, but I can tell from the posts about LSD abuse that SSE is totally professional and any other vendor group is just really very unprofessional. Other vendor groups just don't matter. Not on the map. They are all just garbage. Complete and utter garbage.

Scientist Solutions Evnts has probably never encouraged the over-abuse of LSD, methamphetermine, or mescaline before or during a compnay-sponsored vendor show.

I agree with the LSD-casualty below. SSE was always the best and they continue to become even bester. Biofinders and Biotech Calendar yield better ROI and better leads than SSE, but SSE is the bestest.

I also am a vendor from Chicago.I, the "Windy City". I also used to work for SSE, or "Scientist Solutions", and I am not at all disgruntled like the rest of these posts. I never do cold calls anymore. I just don't. My boss prefers that I wait for SSE to ring me up with super hot leads. With the support of SSE I became the Top Sales Rep Gold Medallion Winner 5 years running for BIG pharma on the Magnificent Mile and Millennium Park. I am constantly reminded of Vietnam War atrocities whenever I visit the Scientist Solutions website. The great times I spent with SSE won't soon be forgotten.Disgruntled ex-SSE employees should not post their comments here. They should post elsewhere.

SSEis really on the forefront of biomedical research.I buy all my chemotherapy drugs, xanax, and valium from the fine folks at SSE. The subway sandwiches are just an added value. Their moderators are amongst the best in the business. I'm happy to pay the nominal $1500/year subscription fee to have access to the brightest minds in the world. It is an unbelievable resource for doctors, cannabis pharmacies, and naturopaths both. I have always gotten my money's worth with sSE.What is troubling to the John Birch Society is all the disgruntled non-SSSE employees who carry their anger on their sleeves and promote hate crimes and graffiti and skateboarding illegally, to the detriment of the scores of under-nourished 3rd worlders who lack the sophistication to participate in 1rst world economy.It's inappropriate.

And how long have you been working for SSE?

I'm a vendor in Chicago and I can see from all the posts that Scientist Solutions or SSE must be the leader and someone who used to work for them is not very happy. They seem to be expanding their company and there is a whole new level of professionalism (I always thought they were professional but it's getting better - more systems in place, better marketing of shows and advertising incentives with their other website - the scientist networking site.

This site is either where disgruntled employees come or what lawsuits are going on between companies. I came here looking to see what is going on with my company and a lawsuit that is getting settled and found this interesting and somewhat funny blog. I've been happy with my experience with Scientist Solutions. I got a $70k deal at one show. No company is going to be perfect - the vendor show companies don't have complete control over any product show - they can get us in the door and they can do the marketing (and I know from my experience they do a ton of marketing), but we have to make the sales. It's so nice not to have to cold call anymore.

I suggest that all of you make your own decisions as business people. Try a show at any of the mentioned Event companies - check out the attention to detail and the turnout - how fast you get your lead list and total cost per lead. It's not about the food - it's about getting leads - leads that we all need to make quota and sales - and the average cost of the lead - for my budget I need to get the most out of every show that I decide to attend. I'm not going to give any star rating to any of the events companies listed in these comments - you be the judge - I know that I'm satisfied with some of the companies mentioned and it's been a good ROI.

I've attended a number of SSE shows during 2011 and only have positive feedback for their efforts. They are a dedicated group of individuals who work hard at providing a low cost and effective means for reps to get face time with researchers and decision makers. From some of the negative comments here I suspect more of a hidden agenda from that particular poster who is most likely a troubled "troll". For me - at least - I've had positive experiences with SSE and other small show providers especially in venues that are locked down.

You can always tell who is doing the best job by how many times they are mentioned (good or bad) or when disgruntled employess are posting. Interesting that people don't have to put their names on their posts.

LSE doesn't seem to do any shows in the southwest region...why is that?

I agree, however BVS and SSE just don't promote the show, either at a biotech or an academic account. Although they cost much less than BioCalendars, they're charging almost as much as Life Sci Exhibits which performs a superior service. I highly recommend them and discourage any company from using BVS or SSE. Also beware of the smaller companies run by reps who are double dipping. Often their agenda is not in your best interests.

My experience with these groups has been as follows:
Biotechnology Calendar shows are more "professionally" run, but are super expensive, and they only have shows at academic accounts and you get a lot of students and non-decision-makers attending. BVS and SS are better for getting your company into a biotech or pharma account, but sometimes the shows are not advertised well and attendance is weak.

As a sales rep, I would feel degraded going to these shows. It's getting pretty close to selling fake gucci watches on a carpet in Zimbabwe. Don't you feel like you can better human condition with your amazing killer Taq made by a chinese slave... errrrggghh.

The real loosers are the people who make the mistake of paying Scientistic Solutions for crappy advertising and crappy biotech shows. In a Nukular war, there are no winners.

HEY, he wasnt referring to YOU. Just take it easy.

sales loser right there...

Just curious what regions of the US these comments are from. I do some of the shows in the southwest and they are hit-and-miss. I haven't had any issues with dirty coolers and chip bowls at the shows I've attended. I agree that the advertising is pretty weak, as the turnout can be bad for some shows.

This may or may not be the case, but SS certainly is untrustworthy and unethical.

I have been to many of the fly by night company shows, BVS and SSE and they suck. Most of the time they are a complete waste of time. The rep from BVS brings the food in his car, puts a dirty bowl on the table with chips, and has a dirty cooler full of canned drinks. The advertising sucks and the majority of people showing up are janitors and admins. Biotech Calendar is a rip off, they use temp employees with no vested interest to advertise, which doesn't get done and their employed staff are incompetent and rude. Like others in my opinion the only company worth spending money on for local events is Life Science Exhibits. They are professionahavana have 1 fee for the show, no extra fees for leads etc. and do a good job promoting the event.

We had a Scientist Solutions vendor show held downstairs in the cafeteria not long ago. From my lab perspective, it was a complete waste of time. We walked in curious to learn of new topics, only to be confronted with a slothful show host, blase event coordination and "me too" vendors. Literally you couldn't swing a dead cat in the room without hitting a vortexer on a vendor table.

It's a strange way of marketing products I have to say. I'd rather get spammed.

I think you have to question yourself if you have or are doing business with these companies. You are considered a bottom tiered business. It's really old news that SS is total junk, it also says a lot about how street smart you are about the market and how to manage it... I would be ashamed to say I deal with these folks as a manager or a marketing manager...

Well I'll be a Macaques Uncle!!!

So all those vendor shows I've been doing at Scientist Solutions leads to the demise of US intelligence? Now that I think of it, you're right. Even I too became dumber when I started paying for their crap hole events.

I second the author's concerns. Our company is abandoning this firm along with the slew of fly-by-night vendor show groups due to lack of leads and complete disorganization on their end. These people are walking disasters. I've been impressed with Life Science Exhibits, that's about all that is out there worth my expense.

Are you suggesting that if Scientist Solutions offered better sandwiches at their vendor shows, more Americans would pursue PhD's in science, rather than letting US advanced education exclusively subsidize the 3rd world?

That's a provocative idea...let me run it by MA...

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"No white Americans pursue advanced degrees in Science.
They just go to Med School or get an MBA or JD.
There's a reason."

Scientist solutions is the worst of the scams. If you do the opposite of what SS has lined up, you probably will do fine.

Scientist Solutions threw the only 2 good employees they had under the bus and railroaded the entire vendor show business. Now they charge even more money, provide worse value, and laugh all the way to the bank with my money. I've given up on them entirely.

It's not just Scientist Solutions. There are countless organizations to choose from, all sleazeballs.

May I suggest you organize your own vendor cooperative. It's far more bang for the buck and at least you have ownership on the quality of the event.

This thread is hilarious, I needed a good laugh today.

There are a lot of shoddy vendor show outfits.
SS is the shoddiest.
Just like the German SS.

THESE are a complete waste of time and money. That's why the reps love these. They don't even serve those huge 10 foot long salmonella subs anymore like the Calendar show used to. Those were very popular with the janitorial staph after they collected their free pens

What about Life Science Exhibits? What about BioShow in Boston? Those two organizations are well run and dedicate the work necessary to promote the event. Plus they eschew Afghan sandwiches so you know it's urine free.

You hire me next time you want show. I make bitch slave out of PhD. They think vendor show too below them. Mr. Professor eat from my hand on knees at my show. I don't serve no sandwich honey. Raw bear meat is secret.

I dropped over $500 on an SS show last month and walked away proud with close to ten (10) solid leads, all from the janitorial staff. Plus I got a free $5 foot long sandwich. How friggin cool is THAT?

That was my last SS show, along with all those other clowns. It's time the vendors reclaim their duties to set up our own shows and leave these bitches.

I also had a bad sandwich at a biotech tent show.
the mayonnaise was bad. i got food poisoning.

Now I am pursuing an on-line degree.